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What Will You Do If the Election is Stolen?

By Richard Miller
Author, “
In Words and Deeds: Battle Speeches in History”

What will you do if you believe that the results of November’s election were fraudulently obtained?

This phenomenon is not new. Ballot box stuffing was a fixture in many nineteenth century elections even before the advent of the great urban “machines” (remember Tammany Hall?) with which the practice is most often associated. And some of these machines continued into the 1970s and ’80s.

In the modern era, Richard Nixon believed that Mayor Richard Daley (father of the current mayor) stuffed ballot boxes in Chicago; in that razor-thin election, as went Chicago, so went Illinois, and thus the nation. John F. Kennedy became president. Nixon could have challenged the outcome but did not, choosing to devote himself to his famous comeback.

Then there was the 2000 presidential election. Many Democrats  believed that they were disenfranchised by another kind of fix: according to this narrative, the election was decided by the Republican appointees to the United States Supreme Court all of whom voted as “their party” might have instructed.

That story line was factually wrong, but it didn’t matter–Democrats believed–and many still do–that, as the old quote has it, “we wuz robbed.”

No doubt this perception contributed to the most rancorous opposition of modern times that George W. Bush has faced from almost his first day in office.

Eight years later Republicans are confronted with a prospect that is a distinctly modern twist of the old machine model–except this machine is not confined to one city but is national. I refer to the activities of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. And here, the accusations aren’t of some indirect or third-party influence as were the allegations of the Supreme Court fix in Bush vs. Gore, but direct connections between Barack Obama’s campaign and ACORN, now under investigation in 12 states for registering the dead, so to speak. Obama’s own machine contributed $800,000 to ACORN which it first tried to disguise but was later forced to ‘fess up to the Federal Election Commission. Moreover, Senator Obama himself is personally connected with ACORN, having represented them during his brief career as community organizer and lawyer.

Some have suggested that ACORN is in fact a criminal conspiracy of the type envisioned by RICO statutes; instead of drugs or gambling, its goal is the election of Obama. While the organization has been cited for internal corruption as well (one of its senior officers embezzled $1million), no one knows about the extent to which ACORN’s apparent voter fraud schemes will influence an election that hasn’t yet taken place.

But in politics, perception is everything. Because of the financial bailouts–increasingly in the plural–the next president will have unprecedented powers, something Americans are traditionally uncomfortable with. This only adds to the importance of making sure that these election results have integrity.

So here’s the question: what will you do if you believe that the election results were obtained by fraud?

No one else has asked you so I thought I might.

1,677 Responses to “What Will You Do If the Election is Stolen?”

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Comment by Garry Rennels

This is absolutely incredible. You people are scared that the election
will be stolen FROM you!! How on earth do you think George W. Bush
was elected TWICE? This place is The Twilight Zone. Steven King should
set his next novel here.

 
Comment by Garry Rennels

I see that the forum participants here are
about as fair and balanced as the network
sponsoring this forum.

 
Comment by M J

Diebold, aka: Premier Election Solutions, Electronic voting machines are flipping votes from Democrats to Republicans in early ballots cast last week. http://wvgazette.com/News/200810180251

 
Comment by Viviane

What can we do? Have every name that was registered by Achorn double-checked. After that you may have to double-check the checkers.
If all this happens, the democrats will undoubtedly shout at us that we’re racists (yeah right, let’s see 92% of black Americans voting for Obama — let’s see, no that’s definitely not racism).
I am praying that it will not come to that…

 
Comment by Roger_W_Isom

PS….. LIKE this FORMAT here for the ELECTION fellas!!! take care!!!!

 
Comment by Roger_W_Isom

Given the OBVIOUS voter fraud with ACORN.. I must SERIOUSLY ask THIS QUESTION now…..
CAN ANY POLL TRUELY BE TRUSTED?????
I CANN’T trust them now….

 
Comment by Evelyn

I think Concerned Citizen has it right.
This election is soooo important. I believe McCain is honest and sincere and will do the best for our country. Obama, on the other hand, does not have the experience needed. Has not shown good judgment in who he has associated with. Is a good inspirational speaker and I think that should be his career. You say you want change - we have had a Democrat majority Congress so put the blame where it belongs.

 
Comment by Joel

The posts clearly need a new theme:

“OBAMA HAS BEEN STEALING THE POLLING DATA FOR LIKELY VOTERS IN TENS OF
THOUSANDS OF NON-PARTISAN POLLS GOING BACK TEN MONTHS!!!”

Right now the meta-analysis of thousands of state polls is here at
http://www.pollster.com/.

McCain Tossup (<4% diff) Obama
Popular Vote 42.4 50.9%
Electoral Votes 155 63 320
% of Elect.Votes 28.8% 11.7% 59.5%

Can any Republican partisan please explain to me how all these polls are
wrong?

There are alarmists posting exagerations about Acorn; please note that Voter Fraud and Voter Registration Fraud are not the same thing- one affects elections and one doesn’t.

Acorn’s work represents an increase in 1% of registrations nationally since 2006, and they themselves have reported voter REGISTRATION fraud to state governments when they discover it within their paid-per-signature ranks. There have been less than 1000 such reports by them, representing seven-one-hundreds-of-a-percent (.07%) of their registrations. This would seem statistically insignificant even if Donald Duck could actually show up to illegally vote, which he can’t.

So someone tell me, if Obama is going to steal this one, how come the polls show him leading so strongly? These polls are the peoples voice. Come back into reality my fellow Americans, please!!

–Your fellow citizen.

 
Comment by Nuance

“The comparision is not to Hitler. If you read it carefully, you would see that. The rapid raise from nowhere to power are similar. The fact that neither were qualified is similar. And their quest for power are similar. And the fact that electing them caused the destruction to an entire country will be similar.”

If you would think carefully, you would understand your inference.

 
Comment by Leah

ACORN President Maude Hurd released the following statement today in response to the McCain campaign’s new ad claiming that, among other things, ACORN is responsible for the mortgage crisis:

”For almost a decade, ACORN, a community organization of 400,000 families in neighborhoods across the country, has been fighting against the predatory lending practices that have robbed our members of their homes, destabilized neighborhoods, and roiled the global economy.”

“In his newest ad, John McCain’s campaign bizarrely claims, “ACORN forced banks to issue risky home loans, the same types of loans that caused the financial crisis we’re in today.” Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, ACORN has worked successfully to help working class families get good home loans on fair terms from legitimate banks and has fought vigorously against predatory lenders who have ripped off families in our communities. These predatory loans caused the crisis.”

“For more than a decade, ACORN members have held protests, released reports, and advocated for regulations to protect homeowners from predatory lenders. ACORN organizers and volunteers have been working day and night to help victims of the GOP economic meltdown to save their homes from foreclosure. In fact, ACORN has brought class action lawsuits against several predatory lenders, and has lobbied the Federal Reserve and Congress in support of regulations against predatory lending. ACORN has even been successful in convincing many lenders to treat homeowners more fairly and help families be able to make their mortgage payments and save their homes.”

“Unfortunately, the Bush administration and Congressional Republicans like John McCain have blocked the sensible regulations that ACORN and others proposed that would have averted the mortgage meltdown. If John McCain thinks that community organizers caused the foreclosure crisis, he knows even less about the economy than previously thought.”

”John McCain and the Republicans are desperately trying to shift the blame for the economic crisis they caused with a philosophy of deregulation and indifference to homeowners. All the grainy footage and creepy music in the world can’t cancel out some simple, basic facts, and the facts about the economy are not on John McCain’s side.”

 
Comment by Tony Sidaway

Ed Brayton has a very good piece debunking all the nonsense about ACORN.

 
Comment by connetta

Seems no one here wishes to hear what other people think..i made 2 comments and they was not posted….if you only post what you want to hear it’s not a fair blog…why even ask opinions??

 
Comment by Concerned America

“It is simply inconceivable that in 20 years’ time someone as sharp as Obama did not grasp the intensely political themes repeated in so much of what Wright says and does”—-not to mention the others he is connected with—-Come on America—-quit being “sold” a bunch of lies by Obama!!!!

It is simply inconceivale that so many poeple believe these lies!!!!!!

Wake up and realize that McCain is the man that will put the country first—he has a track record of it!!!!!!!!!!!

Please people—-look at the factual connections that aren’t the best for the USA in this time in history!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

MY FRIENDS…..go work for acorn…and expose this FRAUD…….

 
Comment by Anne

No lies: we still go for McCain who isnt a sweet talker and not perfect (nobody is perfect anyway) but you can feel that deep in his heart, there is pure love of the country and that all his intentions are good for all people…it may not be perfect but trusting he will work hard for a prosperous America!
________________________

I agree with you. We still go for McCain.
Obama’s past was tied to the domestic terorrists and socialist people only.
20 years in a pew with Rev. Wright spewing hate speech, associated with a guy who bombs government buildings, lawyer for ACORN and an $800,000 contribution to ACORN - an organization that is now being accused of voter registration fraud, some socialistic viewpoints. Question: Who does Obama truly want to serve, America or himself or ACORN?

 
Comment by MSandberg

What Will You Do If the Election is Stolen?

First I would pinch myself to see if I were awake, then I would find out what part of the Soviet Union I’ve been living in.

 
Comment by Mac

Someone posted this idea over at Michele Malkin and I think it is great. We should ask McCain to help us win. I was thinking that maybe he could even run as a republican, or somethin’ similar. Whaddyya think? I know, kinda far fetched but still better than what he is doing now.
Mac

 
Comment by RSR

Reply to Barb,
The comparision is not to Hitler. If you read it carefully, you would see that. The rapid raise from nowhere to power are similar. The fact that neither were qualified is similar. And their quest for power are similar. And the fact that electing them caused the destruction to an entire country will be similar.
Obama will be America’s cancer…operate and remove it now.

 
Comment by Barb

Now you’re comparing Obama to Hitler? LOL. This campaign will never learn will they?

What Obama did in the primary is something the Republican party could never do — beat the Clinton’s. He took on that power dynasty and BEAT them!

These white-bread, salt of the earth people in Iowa liked Obama’s message. That’s were this presidential race took off. Iowans — that’s who you can thank for Obama.

 
Comment by RSR

Obama’s quick raise to presidential nominee is reminiscent of Hitler’s raise to power in Germany during the 1930’s. Here was a small time unknown who had a powerful persona, and the ability to give eloquent speeches. Germany at the time was in dire needs, and the people wanted “Hope and Change”. The German people bought into this hook line and sinker, elected Hitler and followed him blindly. This resulted in the destruction of an entire country. Fast forword to 2008. Here we have Obama coming up from nowhere, no exeperience, no qualifications. Pushed by a corrupt Chicago political machine and favored by a liberal news media to a rapid raise to the top. He to (Obama) can give powerful (but empty) speeches promising a great America, while looking “presidential”. And the American people are suckered and follow this man blindly also. They also view him as their country’s savior just as the Germans viewed Hitler. They overlook all the facts about Obama and blindly elect him President…which leads to the demise of another country…YOURS!!!

 
Comment by ELFranko

Honestly, as ONE person, what on earth COULD I do? I’d have to live with whomever got into office and pray that they’d not drag my country into the ground for the next four years. I could say that I’d leave the country if MY choice did not win, like the ever-anti-Americans Streisand and Tina Fey proclaim. However, I don’t make promises I have no intention of keeping.
On that note, if you think about it, WHERE would they go anyway. Contrary to popular belief, countries other than America frown on folks that s#&t where they eat, as these two yutzes do. Ergo, Steisand is STILL here (darn it!) and if the McCain/Paliin ticket wins, I don’t see the latter of the two complainers leaving the land of the free.
This year, BOTH prevailing political parties failed to yield a viable candidate for the highest office in the land. I thought John Edwards would have been a good choice for the Dems, but I could not find solace in ANY of the folks on the other side of the aisle. Honestly. I was extremely happy when Hilary was ousted by her party, as she is a shrew and is just WRONG, period…but the alternative (Obama?) OMG!!! What were they thinking?? I mean, what the heck has this guy EVER done other than further his own agenda? So…I threw my backing (army of ONE) behind McCain. When he announced his choice for a running mate, my faith was renewed upon hearing Sarah Palin. NOW we had something!
I heard of the cheating, which seems to be overlooked by those in positions to fix it, but they are choosing to look the other way, WHY, I have no idea, but I WILL say that they are NOT putting their country FIRST. To boot, I saw that one of my former co-workers (and a good friend while we worked together) is a spokesperson for ACORN now. WoW! Needless to say, I will be contacting that person in an attempt to get the skinny, as I never knew this person to have a ‘cheating’ bone in their body. This should be enlightening!
So for me, if Obama wins via cheating and Congress of the Senate or the current President does not do anything about it, I guess I’m just stuck with him and freakin’ Biden (ugh!) until the next election, as I’m sure they could not and would not be re-elected. Americans are too smart to be fooled twice.

 
Comment by hannibal

Ok Ed here’s my argument:
Leadership is demonstrated by standing up for what you believe in when faced with adversity. Obama showed leadership by opposing the war in Iraq when it was not popular to do so. He could have,as a junior senetor, just followed the crowd on both sides of the isle like McCain did and bow to the preasure from GW’s administration. That shows leadership.
When GW summoned both candidates to the West Wing to address the economic bailout plan, eyewittnesses say that one person emerged as the leader in that room and it wasn’t GW, Nancy Polosi or Sen McCain, it was Sen Obama who lead the conversation. John McCain had nothing to say about one of the most serious economic threats we’ve faced since 1929. Where was his leadership? It may surprise you to know that I’m an economic conservative, and as such I don’t approve of the bailout plan, but thats another issue.
I believe that a country as wealthy as ours should be able to economicly support the most powerful military force on the planet, care for our elderly & infermed and provide healthcare for all its citizens. Not every country has that capability but we most certainly do and therefore we’re obligated to try.
Don’t get me wrong I’m a Capitalist I believe in the free market but some things are too important to left to the private sector who’s top priority is making a profit.[Health, Safety & Security]

 
Comment by Ed Starrett

Hey Hanibal, Still waitin for an argument. All I’ve read so far is criticism of Palin. Tell me ONE thing that Mr Obama has done to show leadership at any level. Any initiatives as Community Organizer? Any Bills he sponsered as a state Senator? Any leadership any where? I don’t know of anything except his own campaigns. So my question is, how is he qualified for the Presidency? Isn’t leadership a requirement on the Presidents resume for you? Are you really ready to let him learn it “on the job”?

 
Comment by no lies

BO is full of arrogance…i cant even stand to listen to him for 3minutes…not anymore after i realized how he is so obsessed to win to be the first black president of the US…well that obsession is okay, but twisting his words to make it appear humble while pulling the other one down makes me sick…to people who get it, it doesnt appear humble but lies & tricks…and his dumb supporters are screaming in approval…hahahaha! i cant believe it!!! thank God im smarter win or lose;)…MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!

 
Comment by no lies

also, they often talk about racism…saying people only support McCain’s because they do not want to vote for a black person…which is not true…im sure that majority of the blacks are in favor of BO only coz he is black…without even spending a few minutes to brainstorm, comparing agendas etc…i still want to stress out that everybody can have insurance, if only we work for it…im saying this based on my experience as a poor person working my way up…it scares me to think about healthcare for all then american people would not wanna work as hard anymore to get it and it will only make us lazy and fat…lol (just kidding)…i would rather work hard to get what i need at the same time we are helping the economy go up…

 
Comment by Tony Sidaway

In case anybody is still interested in the actual subject of this article, see:

The Republican voter fraud hoax by Brad Friedman.

“The only actual crime here is that Acorn managed to register some 1.3m low-income (read: Democratic-leaning) voters over the past two years. The rest is, pretty much, just made up.”

 
Comment by Concerned American

McCain isn’t afraid he’s going to loose the election—–even though he is up against a HUGE LIAR & CHEATER- Obama——McCain will win—McCain will win with HONOR and INTEGRITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by no lies

too bad this election may be stolen…in the sense that BO’s smart talks can steal the minds of innocent people and thus…win the election…i was really upset and laughing at the same time when he said ‘McCain is afraid’to lose the election…but HE isnt (are you sure he isnt?;)…claiming that his only fear is that people may lose their jobs…lol…sweet sweet talks…he’s talks like a salesman…
we still go for McCain who isnt a sweet talker and not perfect (nobody is perfect anyway) but you can feel that deep in his heart, there is pure love of the country and that all his intentions are good for all people…it may not be perfect but trusting he will work hard for a prosperous America!
…hope the best people isnt outnumbered by the selfish individuals with nothing but help help help and welfare in their minds and heart…if we work hard enough, we’ll get stable jobs plus insurance from our employers without risking the businesses profits thus, preventing bankruptcies…dependency is not good for the mind…body and soul…

a comment from a simple person but a simple person’s vote and opinion in a fair and balanced place
counts right:)

 
Comment by Concerned American

Obama Campaign Runs Afoul of Finance Rules

Wednesday, October 8, 2008 8:25 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

A Newsmax investigation of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign finance reports has turned up more than 2,000 cases in which individuals have made donations far above the legal limit of $2,300 per election.
Such donations, if not returned within 60 days, violate federal campaign finance laws.
Some can be chalked up to common names, such as Michael Brown, William Taylor, or James Smith.
But many others cannot.
On Aug. 31, for example, the Obama campaign filed a report listing a single donation from a Debra Myers in “Rancho Palos Verde, Calif.,” for $28,500 – more than 10 times the amount the law allows per election. Although Debra Myers is identified as a physician, only two individuals with that last name have a listed phone number in Rancho Palos Verdes (the city’s name actually does have an “s” at the end). Neither is a Debra or a “D” Myers, or a physician.
The Obama campaign also identified Woodrow Myers Jr. of Indianapolis, Ind., on Aug. 31 as having given $28,500 to the campaign. Woodrow “Woody” Myers is a former Indiana state health commissioner who spent $2.1 million of his own money in a failed special election to challenge Andre Carson, the grandson of U.S. Rep. Julia Carson, who died in December. The younger Carson won the race this year, with heavy backing from lobbyists, the Democratic Party and related PACs. (Interestingly, Woodrow Myers’ wife is identified as Debra, although Newsmax could not confirm whether this is the same Debra Myers the campaign report lists as being from Palos Verdes.)
In an initial reply to Newsmax que stions, the Obama campaign said it had refunded both contributions on Sept. 30, a day after a Newsmax investigation was published that revealed extensive federal electi on campaign violations by the campaign.
[Read “Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign” — Go Here Now].
The Republican National Committee cited that earlier Newsmax investigation in a formal complaint against the Obama campaign with the Federal Election Commission on Monday.
Several hours later, Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt e-mailed Newsmax to say that the contributions had been “reattributed” to the Obama Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee with the Democratic National Committee, and that the excess had been refunded.
That still put both Debra Myers and Woodrow Myers over the federal limits – unless the Obama campaign refunded their entire checks, since Debra gave another $28,500 earlier in the year to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and Woodrow was way over the $108,2000 overall election cycle limit for individuals.
Individuals can give $2,300 to a federal candidate in both the primary and the general election, for a total of $4,600 in a single election cycle. They also can give $28,500 to a national party commit tee, $10,000 to a state or local committee, and $5,000 to other political committees.
If a candidate loses the primary, any money counted toward the general election must be refunded, a wrinkle in the federal election laws that can sink losing candidates deep in debt.
In exchange for receiving federal funding, the McCain campaign agreed not to take any money from individual donors for the general election, so its donors are limited to $2,300.
In addition to Debra Myers and Woodrow Meyers, hundreds of other individual donors have given to the Obama campaign far in excess of the legal limit, a Newsmax analysis of campaign finance records shows.
Among them:
James Sievers of Big Sky, Mont., gave a total of $20,700 to the campaign, in five donations between March and June of this year. The campaign has returned close to $7,000 of the money but has kept the rest.
Martin Dies of Austin, Texas, also gave $20,700 to the campaign, in four separate checks, each dated June 30, 2007. The campaign returned $2,300 of it immediately, and another $4,600 in September, but kept $13,800 – three times the legal limit.
Robert Watt of Brooklyn, N.Y., gave close to $17,000 to the campaign starting in February of this year, includ ing a whopping $10,000 check logged by the campaign on Aug. 31. Despite the obvious violation of the campaign limits, FEC records show that the campaign returned just $2,300.
Ryan Finley of Portland, Ore., has given $15,400 to Obama for America, starting with two checks on March 6, 2007, totaling $6,900. The campaign immediately returned $2,300, bringing him within the legal limit. He gave another $8,500 in a lump sum on Aug. 26, 2008.
Ms. Merry T. O’Donnell of Juno Beach, Fla., has given $13,150 to the Obama campaign, starting with three donations in March 2007 that totaled $2,000. In January 2008, she gave two more donations of $1,000 each, as well as donations for $600 and for $2,000. In February, she gave another $4,600. As of the latest filing, the campaign has refunded just $2,300 of the total, leaving her net donations at over two times the legal limit for the two elections.
Jerry Rubin of Whitefish Bay, Wis., has given $12,700 to the Obama campaign in varying amounts since February 2007. Despite the obvious violation, the campaign has refunded just $3,400 of that total, still putting him at double the legal limit.
These are just a sampling of the 2,087 individuals who have given Obama more than the $4,600 combined total for the primaries and the general election.
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Donors with common names but who live in different parts of the country are among these 2,087 names. For example, the top individual contributor is Micha el Brown, listed as giving $36,706 to the campaign.
But a closer look turns up what appear to be 46 different people sharing the same name, each giving addresses in different cities around the United States.
Newsmax has screened donors appearing in the FEC database to weed out those with similar names and different addresses.
For example, in the examples listed in this article, we have eliminated any donations from individuals with the same name who are listed as having a different address.
The FEC regularly sends letters to the Obama campaign, questioning contributions that appear to go over the legal limits. In many cases, the Obama campaign has amended its reports as a result.
But the examples cited here have not been amended.
“It is illegal to make contributions in excess of the limits, and it is illegal to receive contributions in excess of the limits,” FEC spokesman Bob Biersack told Newsmax.
So both the donors and the campaign may have broken the law. “But there are lots of circumstances, and until the four commissioners have agreed to rule, it’s hard to judge,E2 he said.
Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told Newsmax that the McCain campaign also has caught excess donations and has “refunded $ 1.2 million in contributions.”
Sean Cairncross, the general counsel for the Republican National Committee who filed the complaint with the FEC on Monday, told Newsmax that the McCain campaign has been “completely transparent with respect to its contributions” by making the names of all donors available to the public in a searchable database. The McCain campaign has even disclosed donors of $200 or less, though it is not required to do so. The Obama camp has not disclosed those donors.
“The Obama campaign has steadfastly refused to make that information public,” he said.
Referring specifically to the huge amount of money that the Obama campaign claims it has raised from small donors, Cairncross said the identity and nationality of those donors could very well remain secret until well after the election unless the Obama campaign makes their names public.
“The American people deserve to know where $250 million in contributions — money that could potentially elect a president — is coming from,” he said. “And at this point, we have no way of knowing.”

 
Comment by KOBY

Please watch these videos and read the articles. See with your own eyes. I hope that whose who support Obama will come to their senses and change their mind. And those who do not support him, will feel really good about the decision that they cast on November 4th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&feature=related

wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77813

online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/obamas-muslim-outreach-coordinator/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433314,00.html

 
Comment by KOBY

Please watch these videos and read the articles. See with your own eyes. I hope that whose who support Obama will come to their senses and change their mind. And those who do not support him, will feel really good about the decision that they cast on November 4th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaO7N-JujU&feature=related

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77813

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/obamas-muslim-outreach-coordinator/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433314,00.html

 
Comment by Concerned American

Yes, Sally “WE THE PEOPLE” need to speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Pat

TO: Brenda—–you say you are voting for Obama because of healthcare—- You need to read up and educate yourself of the kind of healthcare you will be getting—-look at Canada—-taxes pay for it—–Obama not just doing to give it to you for free—–look at Canada—-taxes there are at 43% to pay for this nationalized healthcare—-then when your sick—–try to get into the doctor—-long wait!!!! I feel you need to educate yourself on this healthcare you want so much—-because I know that once you do—-you’ll change your vote—I did!!!!

 
Comment by Concerned American

Why I am saying it isn’t really a republican or democratic thing—-because I feel it’s a National security thing—-without National security— all the other issues don’t mean a thing.

I haven’t forgottten 9/11—and will not. That is what I am scared about—being safe in the USA.

I just don’t understand how anyone could vote for a man that doesn’t repect our flag or our troops. Noone likes war— but like Mc Cain, I do belive it is very important to come out in Victory. And its not like the troops will come home— they will just relocate (even under Obama) And just like gulf war we would just have to go back because we didn’t finish. Freedom isn’t free!!!!

And regarding Ayers, he founded a terrorist group that bombed the USA. Barack Obama has dismissed concerns about his relationship with Ayers by noting that he was only a child when Ayers was planting bombs at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. But Ayers has never apologized for his crimes, he has reveled in them, expressing regret only for the fact that he didn’t do more.

As far as the financial mess we are in—-it wasn’t Bush who put us in this financial mess, it was the Democratic controlled congress ( 2 years of Frank and Cox ) and it was the Democrats before that who blocked at every turn legislation that would have prevented the mess. ( Republicans are also to blame for burying their heads in the sand, and not screaming louder )

Under an Obama administration our taxes will go up, further fueling an already weak economy. And 4 years of his change ( which the Democrats always preach, in reality is nothing but taxes hikes and redistribution of wealth ) will be the same old tax and spend, putting and additional “trillions” on our national debt. If we have an Obama change—-we may never get to vote for the president ever again. “Blinders on everyone”, there will be no jobs, there will be no health care, there will be no small business, there will be no credit to buy anything, it will be hard to even feed our families, our children will grow up in a socialistic country. This man is not even an American citizen, he is a Muslim and if people refuse to research his background they will be the ones screaming the loudest when he is our president !! I am so tried of hearing the left preach their hated of everything that is American, and blaming Republicans for all that is wrong !! It is all our doing by believing entrenched, corrupt politicians. ( We need term limits for Congress)
People the ” King has no clothes on ” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

If they come to my childs door they have instructed to call the police….and hope they have
permits doing the door to door thing..

 
Comment by Rose

Hey, Sally,

Don’t listen to hannibal and Steve. I bet they work for ACORN. Next thing you know, they’ll be coming to your door and asking your son to sign up.

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

That is my issue….and very important to me……

Economics..my friend…the demos ruined this nation when clinton signed the bill 1999
and congress ignored the issue….2 times when it was brought to the floor…

As far as I am concerned…….I hope someone writes a book CALLED THE FACES WHO RUINED AMERICA

BTW …rezko is spilling the beans…he is looking at 20 years……
Obama worked for him also…how come everyone around Obama is like a bad movie
of MUGSY and Al Capone…oh the web we weave….

 
Comment by hannibal

No SALLY.
I’d do the same thing you would do…offer them an Alaskan moose burger and some O’Riely kool-aid.

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

No…My birthday…LOL…

And ak47s are not legal….my dear friend……
ITS CALLED if someone comes in to rape/rob/maul me…I cannot defend myself..legally…

What would you do if a robber came into your house…and raped your wife…?

OFFER him A cookie

 
Comment by hannibal

STEVE:

Try and be brief, MNF’s halftime is only 20 minutes long.

 
Comment by Rose

Oops! Typo spotted.

To Steve, I meant “lose” not “loose.”

I think a left-wing virus is attacking my computer…

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

I am reading them for all the things I am grateful for..at thanksgiving….

They need to know how some people hate this nation…….

from obamas book and rev wrights book….

I hope my turkey walk out of the house….

 
Comment by Rose

Oops! My PC went haywire.

To Steve,

You don’t cite sources, but if that article is true, the reason Buckley Jr. is voting for Obama is because his head is full of “silly rhetoric” too. Let’s loose the SAT words and summarize the core argument of his piece:

“Obama, Obama, Obama! Unlike McCain, who has a temper, you’re a cool dude, so hey I’m flip-flopping and voting for you. But hey, man, you have to promise to change your whole agenda when you become president, or else this country will have your butt. Barack, boy, you’re soooo intelligent. Why aren’t you willing to release your Columbia and Harvard transcripts, bro.? Come on, man, I know you have nothing to hide! And I dig your soul-searching books. I know it takes a great man to talk so much about himself! Will you let me publish your poems too? I’m sure they will inspire even yours truly’s nitwit brain.”

 
Comment by hannibal

Is that all that matters to you Sally?
Aren’t you concerned about the economy, the War, a womens right to choose, healthcare…or is it all about you being able to buy that AK-47 for your sons 15 birthday?

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

PLEASE BUY REV WRIGHTS BOOKS>…….and read it to your neighbors……they

have been in publication for 20 years……I am reading them at thanksgiving this year…

 
Comment by hannibal

There I go again?
Who have I offended this time?
I honestly haven’t seen the clip.

 
Comment by Sally Citizen

LISTEN SPORTSMAN…..look at the website Illinois State Rifle Association….

THIS MAN HAS VOTED AGAINST 2nd ADMENDMANT he voted against you defending

Yourself in your home. 2 times…

CONTACT YOUR SENATOR NOT TO FUND ACORN….THEY NEED TO BE FINED BIG TIME….

THEY are funding An Organization that commits FRAUD……

WE THE PEOPLE….SPEAK….

 
Comment by Steve

Hannibal, there you go again!

Watch it on youtube - and take a look at McCain’s face - priceless!!

 
Comment by Steve

Hannibal, there you go again!

Watch it on youtube - and take a look on McCain’s face - priceless!!

 
Comment by hannibal

Were they graoning and moaning at the lady’s comment or McCains response?

 
Comment by Steve

Lex and Patrice,

You are an embarassment to your party - you sound like the woman at McCain’s rally, saying “I don’t trust him. He’s a a a a He’s an Arab”. You could hear the crowd groan and moan and laugh. McCain did one of the few honorable things he’s done in this cmpaign and told that woman and the rest of America that Obama is not an Arab, he is a decent man, a decent family man, and should be treated with respect. Read something besides Fox News or the National Enquirer. Sheesh!!

 
Comment by Lex

Patrice….
I signed it!
I m not sure where he was born maybe Pakistan or as Obama says POKOKSTAN!!
hahhahahaha

 
Comment by Steve

Susan Eisenhower is more than just another disappointed Republican. She is also Ike’s granddaughter and a dedicated member of the party who has urged her fellow Republicans in the past to stick with the GOP. But now Eisenhower, who runs an international consulting firm, is endorsing Barack Obama. She has no plans to officially leave the Republican Party. But in Eisenhower’s view, Obama is the only candidate who can build a national consensus on the issues most important to her—energy, global warming, an aging population and America’s standing in the world.

“Barack Obama will really be in a singular position to attract moderate Republicans,” she told NEWSWEEK. “I wanted to do what many people did for my grandfather in 1952. He was hugely aided in his quest for the presidency by Democrats for Eisenhower. There’s a long and fine tradition of crossover voters.”

 
Comment by Lex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA

 
Comment by patrice

Lex: can’t believe OBAMA is not a citizenship of the US. SIGN THE PETITION!!! Make him prove he was born in the US and not KENYA or Wherever! More lies.

 
Comment by hannibal

How will anyone know if this election is stolen?

Whatever candidate wins, the other side will claim they stole it?

The question itself raises suspicion and will make it harder for us as Americans to come together when its all over. We will need a unified country to address many of the problems we currently face. McCain has a record of making enemies, on both sides of the isle, Obama has a record of building consensus. His tone and dameanor suggest that he could better heal the partisan rift that exists in Washington and America.

 
Comment by Lex
 
Comment by hannibal

What needs to happen for McCain to steel this election:

a. Russia would have to invade Georgia and attempt to annex them
b. the Iraqi pepole would have to stop fueding, as they have for over 50 generations, declare Iraq a thriving democracy and claim that its all because of the American”surge”.
c. Biden would have to make an extraordinary gaff about Sarah Palins intellect.
d. Obama would have to caught sleeping with Hilary.
e. McCain would have to dye his hair and learn to act like Regan.

 
Comment by hannibal

to FactFinder:

I see that any opinion contrary to your own, offends you.
My “Hot buttons” are logic and reason, lets see if you can hit one of them.

 
Comment by FactFinder

Comment by hannibal
October 13th, 2008 at 7:06 pm

hannibal, which word offended thee? YOU are the one ridiculing people for having different oppinions. YOU are disrepectful to others.

I shall try very hard pushing your hot buttons until you leave this site.

 
Comment by Marlon

I am hoping for Obama. He is about “spreading the wealth” and the rich don’t deserve all that money anyway. We want fur coats too and nice cars. We want to open our own business. Right now I don’t work. For the last 3 years I have been collecting unemployment and it’s been hard, but with Obama in office, it won’t be hard for me to keep collecting unemployment and use the tax money from Obama to try and start a business. We all deserve to have those opportunitys.

 
Comment by FactFinder

Comment by KJ
October 13th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

KJ, the registered deceased in Chicago cemetaries voted. Is this “voting fraud” or “registration fraud?”

 
Comment by Steve

The son of William F. Buckley has decided—shock!—to vote for a Democrat.

“Let me be the latest conservative/libertarian/whatever to leap onto the Barack Obama bandwagon. It’s a good thing my dear old mum and pup are no longer alive. They’d cut off my allowance.

Or would they? But let’s get that part out of the way. The only reason my vote would be of any interest to anyone is that my last name happens to be Buckley—a name I inherited. So in the event anyone notices or cares, the headline will be: “William F. Buckley’s Son Says He Is Pro-Obama.” I know, I know: It lacks the throw-weight of “Ron Reagan Jr. to Address Democratic Convention,” but it’ll have to do.

Dear Pup once said to me, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.”

I am—drum roll, please, cue trumpets—making this announcement in the cyberpages of The Daily Beast (what joy to be writing for a publication so named!) rather than in the pages of National Review, where I write the back-page column. For a reason: My colleague, the superb and very dishy Kathleen Parker, recently wrote in National Review Online a column stating what John Cleese as Basil Fawlty would call “the bleeding obvious”: namely, that Sarah Palin is an embarrassment, and a dangerous one at that. She’s not exactly alone. New York Times columnist David Brooks, who began his career at NR, just called Governor Palin “a cancer on the Republican Party.”

As for Kathleen, she has to date received 12,000 (quite literally) foam-at-the-mouth hate-emails. One correspondent, if that’s quite the right word, suggested that Kathleen’s mother should have aborted her and tossed the fetus into a Dumpster. There’s Socratic dialogue for you. Dear Pup once said to me sighfully after a right-winger who fancied himself a WFB protégé had said something transcendently and provocatively cretinous, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” Well, the dear man did his best. At any