i am an independent, and i must say that macain looks erratic the last 2 weeks. among my independent friends, the shift is strongly towards Obama. Mcain should focus on solutions and drop the personal attacks –it is turning me off completely. the biggest isssue is the economy, and if he doesn’t make that his priority, and instead listen to his advisors who are telling him to focus on personal attacks, he might as well suspend his campaign permanently. in any case, Obama surge is on, and he is ready to take on the job of the Presidency.

I always hear, from both sides (Republican and Democrat, also those in-between) that they are sick and tired of the bureaucrats in Washington (we don’t trust them!). Almost all of the thinking general public has made a comment about our representatives and what a lousy job they are doing. So why in the world are so many of these people worried about Govenor Sarah Palin? She is NOT one of the “good-ole-boys/gals” in Washington! She is coming to us with a new way of looking at things, especially when compared to all the bureaucrats who are already there and have been for far too long! She is a breath of fresh air! She is on our side, and she has my vote!

Comment by walt
October 6th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Read it and, of course, this is coming from one of the most liberal left wing publications in America. And, of course, there was nothing about obama (the messiah) and his associations past and present in RS. So, what can we make of this? Simple. Can’t be backed up so it must be a smear and a lie (a half truth is still a whole lie).

Thanks, for the worthless read.

obama/biden = The new Socialist/Communist country (USSA)

It is unfortunate that our campaigns have become so negative. I expected, however, that after the Swiftboat Douchebag ads of 2004, Obama would be prepared if attacked in such a manner. No one is immune to such tactics. Obama’s association with Ayers has been debunked many times by legitimate news organizations. McCains history as one of the Keating 5 is also well known. Yet both can be used as fodder for those looking for a reason to believe such garbage!

As I said before, McCain will not help himself by going in this direction. There is clearly additional material for his foes in the Rolling Stone article; and, it will likely hit the mainstream media fairly quickly.

I dare any of you to read the Rolling Stone article on McCain. The moral is, if you live in a glass house, don’t throw stones.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

As far as I’m concerned, the election is about over. I can’t sleep at night knowing our future is going to soon be in the hands of NOBAMA, but all I can do is vote and pray at this point. Our only HOPE now is that the economy continues to suffer, so he can’t raise our taxes as quickly for all of his ridiculous spending! Unless he just does it anyway?! (Probably)

Just know - that when Nobama wins, it’s only because the Dems CHEATED to get him in there. I’ve seen the black lady with missing teeth on FOX, stupidly admitting ON CAMERA to telling people to vote for Obama of course! Pathetic. Then there was the guy promised to be taken ‘anywhere he wanted to go’ after voting, and picked ‘the Greyhound bus station!’, probably heading out of Ohio!? GEEZ!!! ACORN should be abolished. Instead, the Dems tried to stick money in the stupid bail out for them?!?! Disgusting! They are so underhanded and dirty - it’s the only way they know how to win. CHEAT. They’ve now stolen Ohio, and I can’t believe in this day and age, there isn’t a safer voting system by now.

My husband and I just took our 4 kids to see Palin in Carson Saturday, and she was great. It was so refreshing to be standing in line with fellow pro-life Conservative people, especially in California, know for unfortunately, always going ‘blue.’ And a packed FULL stadium without even having Mc Cain there?!?! I’d say that says a lot for Sarah!

How this country can put NOBAMA in the White House is BEYOND me! Stupid sheep.

Comment by INDEPENDANT
October 3rd, 2008 at 5:24 pm

You know, if you weren’t so blinded by your own delusions, maybe we could have an intelligent, productive dialog; but, alas, the fool that you are, this is never going to happen. You’re just another communist puppet, beholden to a fool’s paradise. After reading everything you have written thus far, you are the one who lacks intelligence. Your ignorance gleams brightly.

And, I still can’t believe your still here. Thought you were leaving us. Be gone now…

obama/.biden = carter/mondale

How often does palin stick to the issue? other than bashing the other party I want to hear how she is going to help better this country without complaining about everyone else. Time is ticking and the majority is not impressed lets hear how she compares to the VP she is running against instead of the Presidential canidate. She is a governor! Can she really keep up with the big boys?

Why is everyone comparing Palin and Obama? Isnt Palin running for VP?

From Huffington: Early this year, an op-ed in the Anchorage Daily News ripped into Gov. Sarah Palin’s appearance on a morning “shock jock” radio show as “plain and simple one of the most unprofessional, childish and inexcusable performances I’ve ever seen from a politician.”
So what happened? Palin has repeatedly feuded with the state’s Senate president, Lyda Green, over a wide range of legislation. Last January, Palin appeared on “The Bob and Mark Show,” whose host Bob Lester despises Green. That’s when the trouble started:
Early on in the conversation before Palin started to crack up, Lester referred to Sen. Green as a jealous woman and a cancer. Palin, who knows full well Lyda Green is a cancer survivor, didn’t do what any decent person would do, say, “Bob, that’s going too far.”
But as the conversation moved on, Lester intensified his attack on Green.
Lester questioned Green’s motherhood, asking Palin if the senator cares about her own kids. Palin laughs.
Then Lester clearly sets the stage for what he is about to say by warning his large audience and Palin. He says, “Governor you can’t say this but I will, Lyda Green is a cancer and a b—-.” Palin laughs for the second time.
What were teenage boys thinking when they heard the governor laugh at someone being called a b—-? How about the teenage girls who look up to Palin. What did they think when they heard her laugh?
But there is more. Lester then describes Green’s chair as big and cushy. A clear reference to the senator’s weight. Palin laughs a third time. She’s just having a grand old time.
Palin was clearly enjoying every second of Lester’s vicious attack on her political rival.
As the Daily News op-ed notes, Palin later released a statement reading, “The Governor called Senator Green to explain that she does not condone name-calling in any way and apologized if there was a perception that the comment was attributed to the Governor.” Then again, at the end of the call in question, Lester asked if he could come visit Palin, and she responded, “I’d be honored to have you.”
So what does the incident actually say about Palin? If nothing else, it plays into the developing perception that she has a ruthless streak when taking on her political opponents, whether they be opposing legislators or state/local employees.

From US Weekly: On January 15, Alaska governor Sarah Palin laughed along with an Alaskan shock-jock DJ who called her political rival Lyda Green a “cancer,” a “b—-” and ridiculed her weight. (Green is a cancer survivor.)
“People were so nice and were mortified. Newspapers that were never Lyda Green-friendly, they demanded that [Sarah] apologize,” Green told Us.
“You know what she said? She said, ‘I’m calling to apologize. I hope you didn’t misunderstand the radio program,’” Green says. “I told her, ‘I didn’t misunderstand.’”
The Alaska state senator added, “It’s not a good way to behave. Why would anybody call a shock jock?”
So what did Green think when she heard Palin was John McCain’s vice presidential candidate? “It’s been very difficult to work with her,” she tells Us Weekly. “I wish there had been more vetting.”

In related news Anchorage AM radio host Eddie Burke was been suspended after broadcasting the phone numbers of women involved in organizing a protest rally against Sarah Palin over the weekend, his station manager said today.

The scurrilous attacks today by Ms. Palin on Barack Obama are merely following the Karl Rove playbook:

Throw any garbage out and see what sticks;
portray yourself as the victim;
avoid the issues;
and if all that fails, blame the Clintons.

Eight years ago John McCain lost the nomination to George W. Bush because of Karl Rove’s vicious and dishonorable campaign. One would have thought he would reject such disgusting tactics. Nonetheless, here he is embracing that which he previously disdained.

Because of this garbage McCain will likely bring down upon himself similar swiftboat douchebag attacks. What a shame.

Whether McCain wins or loses (the most likely outcome), at the end of this campaign, he will regret he sacriiced his integrity.

NEWS!!

The “stellar” performance given by Palin just gave Obama/Biden one more percentage point of advantage over her runningmate Mc Cain according to Gallup. 50%-42%

NEWS!!

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin slammed Sen. Barack Obama’s acquaintance with a former anti-war radical on Saturday, accusing him of associating “with terrorists who targeted their own country.”

I guess if you can’t win with arguments, the political handbook call for personal attacks… what else can McCain resource to? .. Oooh, I know… Obama is a muslim and “less than white”…

Tuesday’s debate will be DOOMSDAY for the republicans… C-ya!

Answer a few questions. If McCain is putting country first, why *instead* of putting emphasis now on what his plan is for the economy, for health care, how he’s going to help us all weather this crisis, he’s attacking Obama? In McCain’s 26 years in Congress, how many times has he voted for bills or created bills that help the middle class? In McCain’s 26 years in Congress, how many times has he voted for bills or created bills that hurt the middle class? Aren’t those important to know? Over his lengthy career in the Senate, how often has he championed the middle class, helped make life just a tiny bit less burdensome for the people who are the *backbone* of this nation? How many of you who work for companies who benefited from 8 years’ worth of tax relief for business under Republican rule, how many of you saw decent increases in your salaries? Republicans always say we need to not make taxes too burdensome on business, so that business can hire more people, pay better salaries, buy more equipment. Yet how often do businesses actually *do* that?

The day before the vice presidential debate, General McKiernan, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, made an urgent appeal for more troops, equipment. Yet during the VP debate, Palin *twice* referred to McKiernan as McClellan. My God, this person is going to potentially be the vice president and she gets confused about the name of a war commander when the United States IS. AT. WAR? Getting the name wrong once, sure. Honest mistake. You’re thinking one person and that’s the name you say. But *twice* ? I have a cousin serving in Afghanistan right now. Every day I pray he’s still alive. I was deeply offended that Palin couldn’t even get the general’s name right. No way in HECK I want her to have even a remote chance of actually becoming Commander in Chief.

A comment in today’s New York Times summed it up best, for me anyway: “The problem with Ms. Palin’s candidacy is that John McCain might actually win this election, and then if something terrible happened, the country could be left with little more than an exclamation point as president.”

Wow, What a sad commentary. Do you ever look in the mirror?
This is whats wrong with America today. You think your better than anyone else.
“A liberal is a man who will give away everything he doesn’t own.” Frank Dane
“I suppose, indeed, that in public life, a man whose political principles have any decided character and who has energy enough to give them effect must always expect to encounter political hostility from those of adverse principles.” Thomas Jefferson
Have a nice day.
Biden and his 1929 tv gaffe! and you complain about Palin?
Give us a brake!

Comment by sweetwater
October 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Comment by Harvey Scribner
October 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

“Sarah Palin appears to be a capable Governor of Alaska, and a genuinely nice person. She is, however, woefully uninformed about many of the critical issues facing our country (e.g., national security, foreign policy, economics, etc.). I must admit that I do not understand the desire of many Americans for mediocrity in our leaders. Eight years of George W. Bush should be enough proof of that approach. Personally, I want the smartest person available in these perilous times.”

But you just answered your own musings. Mediocrity *defines* most Americans. They don’t want a leader smarter than them, able to think outside the box. They want someone of their own average intelligence or of less intelligence, someone ‘like them’ so that they can feel superior. It’s a mass inferiority complex at work here. When people actually admit they vote for a candidate because ‘he’s a guy I can see having a beer with,’ you are dealing with redneck America. The idiot nation. Those people got exactly the president they deserve. Too bad the rest of us have to suffer too. And you better believe there is some racism at work here too. Everyone knows the redneck in his trailer park, sitting on the sofa drinking a Budweiser, knocking Obama, who has actually *made* something of himself, all bluster to hide his own massive insecurities. Welcome to America

Comment by willb
October 4th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

“sweetwater, good call on the bet, I wish I bet too becuase it’s not a shock that McCain has stooped to the level that he has.”

I’m in shock actually, lol. I just got home a short while ago, so I didn’t know about this until I turned my computer on and had some 60 emails from people ragging on me about my prediction (and hey, there was some envy there too, because I’m now $500 richer and they aren’t. Ha!) It’s the darndest thing. I never get in pools. Superbowl pools, World Series pools, etc., because I’m not good at predictions. Except about politics. The Republican Party is the most easy-to-read bunch on earth. Their intentions are clearer than a 4-year-old’s. And I really did make that bet as a joke, or at least half as a joke. And I even tried half-heartedly try to get out of it, change it to something else. No one would let me. Now I’m having the last laugh. But it’s really not that funny. $500 is nice, sure, but I’d rather McCain had integrity, class. Apparently he feels otherwise.

Comment by Harvey Scribner
October 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

“Sarah Palin appears to be a capable Governor of Alaska, and a genuinely nice person. She is, however, woefully uninformed about many of the critical issues facing our country (e.g., national security, foreign policy, economics, etc.). I must admit that I do not understand the desire of many Americans for mediocrity in our leaders. Eight years of George W. Bush should be enough proof of that approach. Personally, I want the smartest person available in these perilous times.”

But you just answered your own musings. Mediocrity *defines* most Americans. They don’t want a leader smarter than them, able to think outside the box. They want someone of their own average intelligence or of less intelligence, someone ‘like them’ so that they can feel superior. It’s a mass inferiority complex at work here. When people actually admit they vote for a candidate because ‘he’s a guy I can see having a beer with,’ you are dealing with redneck America. The idiot nation. Those people got exactly the president they deserve. Too bad the rest of us have to suffer too. And you better believe there is some racism at work here too. Everyone knows the redneck in his trailer park, sitting on the sofa drinking a Budweiser, knocking Obama, who has actually *made* something of himself, all bluster to hide his own massive insecurities. Welcome to America.

sweetwater, good call on the bet, I wish I bet too becuase it’s not a shock that McCain has stooped to the level that he has.

Now I would like to address McCain’s situation during his time as a prisoner of war. I am a retired military officer who served during the Vietnam War. McCain’s conduct was a source of humiliation to many of us. It was no secret that he broke under pressure. McCain, due to the North Vietnamese’s knowledge of his father’s status as an Admiral in the US Military, was singled out for preferential treatment. Many men received no medical care but McCain was sent to the hospital reserved for the enemy’s own wounded. During a period of approximately three and half years, McCain made several video and radio broadcasts denouncing the United States of America. We could not understand why he cooperated with the Viet Cong for so long.

John McCain recently was interviewed for a special on his relationship with his father. He said in that broadcast that he was afraid to face his father upon his return because he failed to keep his courage under torture and betrayed America. The comparisons to Jane Fonda and McCain are not off target. I won’t go to Jane Fonda movies and I won’t vote for McCain. Both of them are guilty of the same bad conduct.

Thanks to McCain’s newest desperate attempt to salvage his campaign, I just won $500. 100 people got into a candidate pool 4 months ago. We each had to pick a candidate and if that candidate was losing in the polls in October, what the candidate would say about the other candidate as a way to try and salvage their campaign. I jokingly said that McCain would accuse Obama of being a terrorist, that he wouldn’t be able to resist because that’s been the Republican shtick since 2001. Whenever the American populace gets nervous, bring up the threat of terrorism, or make it up, and scare the public, who isn’t too bright in the first place. I said it half jokingly, but I let it stand as my bet. Well, 4 months later, I was right! Now the McCain camp is doing exactly that. (Maybe in retaliation, Obama’s camp should start circulating the rumor about McCain and Palin having a secret shrine to Hitler deep in campaign headquarters. However, Obama has too much class to do something like that. He, unlike McCain, and perhaps naively, doesn’t believe the American public is stupid.)

I’m always amazed how easily so many Americans buy into the Republican platform that Democrats tax and spend. If you really believe that, do some actual research of your own. We never had a federal deficit *until* Reagan, who believed in borrowing against the future. (YOUR childrens’ future. And now look where your childrens’ future is — $700 billion in debt just as of yesterday, on one bailout package alone.) Bush Senior grew the deficit even further. Clinton brought the deficit DOWN (and no, I’m not a Clintonite; can’t stand the whole family), and left office with a surplus. He undid a lot of the damage Reagan and Bush had done. Enter Bush Junior, who not only erased the surplus, but has grown the deficit now to the point the United States will now forever be in debt to foreign nations, and brought the country to the brink of collapse last week. You worry about your jobs going to ‘third world’ countries? The United States is now *becoming* a third world country! So again, Republicans, tell me how Democrats are the ones who tax and spend your future?

I have to applaud the Republican party, though. Starting with Reagan and continuing with the Republicans’ ludicrous “Contract with America” (that retarded Americans bought into, because, hey, it was catchy!), on through to the current idiot in the Oval Office–The same man who for MONTHS and MONTHS, in fact just until 2 weeks ago, insisted the U.S. economy was fundamentally sound, alongside John McCain who insisted the U.S. economy is fundamentally sound, to McCain’s previous campaign advisor and still private advisor who called Americans a bunch of whiners not 2 months ago–I applaud the Republican party for being able to work the most perfect con job on a willing and content-to-remain uneducated public.

After the election, we should divide the country in half. Give half the country to the idiotic public who eat up sound bites, don’t bother to research the statements made by their candidates of choice or question the validity of any statements made, are willing, ney, eager to overlook the contradictory remarks their candidates make, and who make their choices based on how “nice” they think a candidate is and not on actual competence. And give the other half of the country to people with brains, who don’t want to be spoonfed the ‘truth’ or misled by their representatives. And watch and see which half of the country falls apart first.

I am a fiscal conservative; but, after 8 years of bad policies, catastrophic decisions and junk economics, this country cannot afford another republican president.
Sarah Palin appears to be a capable Governor of Alaska, and a genuinely nice person. She is, however, woefully uninformed about many of the critical issues facing our country (e.g., national security, foreign policy, economics, etc.)
I must admit that I do not understand the desire of many Americans for mediocrity in our leaders. Eight years of George W. Bush should be enough proof of that approach. Personally, I want the smartest person available in these perilous times. I find the thought of Sarah Palin one heartbeat from being the leader of this country frightening.

I also suspect that much of the nastiness and outright hatred on this thread is likely motivated by racism….

John McSAME and Sarah PLAIN - a ticket to No Where ..

Sarah Palin did win the debate, that fact that the Propagand machines said it was a tie tells you everything you need to know about it. The media is doing everything possible to elect Obama. Democrats complain that Obama is being ’smeared’ as a unpatriotic communist, but that is not a smear, it is exposing him for what he his. Obama will not adress this, he knows who he is. I expect we will know much more about barak’s true unpatriotic character in the next 30 days. The gov. Sarah Palin is a true inspiration to freedom, and putting the country back in the hands of the people, not the people in the hands of the govt. as barak wants to do.

The idea that Sarah Palin somehow won this debate is just silly. She failed to answer most of the questions and instead regurgitated talking points that were crammed into her ahead of time. Celebrating her performance because she didn’t choke is an embarassment. She lacks a deep understanding of almost every area of national and international politics. Her strongest issue is supposed to be energy and she can’t even understand how little effect drilling in protected areas will have on the price of oil, due to the simple magnitude of world wide demand.

Why won’t anyone comment on what she actually said? There is simply no substance there.

Biden was Biden, he’s an average politician who avoided making any large mistakes. He does seem to understand the issues and knows how to answer questions, but it was nothing special.

Att: scap and dems want to talk about stupidity. Lets start with biden last week when talking about the economic crises. Biden says we need a President who can address the public like Roosevelt did in 1930 when he went on television and spoke to the nation. ‘SAY IT AINT SO JOE’ ROOSEVELT WASN’T THE PRESIDENT IN 1930 (was President-1933 -1945 ) (AND THEIR WAS NO COMMERCIAL TV BROADCAST TILL 1945)thirty six years in the senate who’s the idiot. Even more impotant in the debate when Palin said that she would oversee the senate and Biden quoted article 1 of the constitution. Article 1 of the constitution states that she is the president of the senate the legilative branch, Biden a lawyer and 36 years in the senate and he doesn’t know that — who’s the idiot? Can you imagine if Sarah would have said either one of those things.

Unless you hold a position equivalent to that of a govenor I’d be willing to bet she knows far more than most of us here, and I include myself in that observation. Imagine if you will, being interviewed for a new job that you know you’re capable of yet demands more from you. Granted there are people who prefer to stay in their comfort zone so this doesn’t apply to them. Now, imagine knowing before your interview that professionally you are perceived as unqualified. You know better but also know the person doing the interview holds a position that doesn’t come close to having the responsibilities of your present job let alone the one you’re apply for. Add to that another obstacle. You have been publicly critiqued and ridiculed personally to the point of being the blunt of jokes all because you look and speak a certain way. Thankfully, we have anti-discrimenation laws to protect us from this sort of thing. Apparently, she’s not entitled because it’s politics but a little common courtesy would be refreshing.

What’s so difficult about the Katie Couric questions: What newspapers do you read? What other Supreme Court decisions do you disagree with? DUH!!! How about the Exxon Valdez case in Alaska? Sarah couldn’t name one paper or one supreme court decision. If she’s so smart, why won’t McCain let her do any more interviews? She’s George Bush in a skirt!

I want to laugh at at Lorenzos coment (0ct 3 7:27 Pm) dude what planet are you on . Great minds of the world being elected look around You. Mexico Venezuela ,Bolivia Russia,Cuba,chile.Iran ,Somalia crazies fassist communist ,dictators. Dude what about the U.N wake up read instead of just blogging get a world learn a life. This is why you people vote for Obama ,You dont look up his record (non voting)except his vote in the chicago senate on (infacide). Look up his friends his buisness associates his pastor his terrorist friend Bill Ayers.His communist buddy Frank Marshall Davis who was his Mentor(smoking gun.com)and mentioned in Obamas book but only as Frank wonder why (page 100) and lets not forget Lewis farrakhan head of the nation of Islam or Sal Alinsky another communist who dedicated the book he wrote to Lucifer. I mean really and I am not reachig here.This is all available an can be fact checked. Dude my Mother told me tell me who you hang with and I’ll tell you who you are. or you are the books you read and the people you know. In either one of these cases what does this say about Obama his history and his actions. My 18 year old nephew was a (CHANGE) or Rock the Vote fan. I asked him what that meant he said a new young face a black man (Obama) or a women (Hillary). Without any facts I asked? He said his friends his school and mtv and the webwer his source fo info. I told him vote for whom ever you want but do the research find out what they really stand for not what they say but their charactor don’t follow blindly. He is now voting MCcain / Palin he is a first time voter. realy get real dude

Biden’s stated Net Worth is a joike. And if that’s all he and his wife can save while making $265,000 a year, then I’m pretty sure I don’t want them running my country’s finances!
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Here’s an article from delawareonline that sheds a little more little on the matter.

Local real estate agents said the Biden property is worth at least $2.5 million — $1.8 million more than the couple owes. In addition, his latest Senate financial disclosure — which lists assets and liabilities in wide ranges — shows that Biden’s net worth, excluding real estate holdings and mortgage debt, is between $381,000 and minus $55,000.

Biden and his wife, Jill, an English instructor at Delaware Technical & Community College, have combined salaries of $265,500 this year. Between 2005 and 2007, Biden also received a total of $225,000 in advances for his autobiography, “Promises to Keep.”

While their earnings probably would not be enough to purchase their Greenville estate today, the Bidens have managed to live in such splendor partly because of two financially rewarding real estate deals with political supporters.

In 1996, Biden sold a home in Greenville for the asking price of $1.2 million — more than six times what he paid two decades earlier — to John R. Cochran III, a top executive at the MBNA credit card bank that was a longtime political benefactor.

Using profits from that sale, Biden paid $350,000 cash to real estate executive and developer Keith D. Stoltz for 4.2 vacant acres — a long, narrow lot a few miles from Biden’s old home. Stoltz had bought that same lot five years earlier for the same price.

Did she ever win that debate!!!!

Please……everyone read comments by Lan 10-3-08 and Joe A. 10-3-08 page 52 and you will understand why you can not vote Obama/Biden!!!!

While I am a hardcore Bush and Palin backer, I do believe Joe Biden is a great American. I can’t say the same thing about Obama.

Sarah will be the first lady President. It has been sad for some Republicans to have turned their backs on Sarah. Such a pity. Sarah and Fox rocks!!!

I read and listen to everything I can on the issues of the day. The fact is both
Republicans AND Democrats in Congress have played the ‘you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours’ game TOO LONG. Our country is fed up with the political speak and do nothing for our country unless it lines their pockets and/or their friends & family. Liberal thought is that there is no absolute
TRUTH ON THE PLANET. Everything is based on situation ethics and if you believe in anything likeGod,Truth and good vs evil you are not educated or lack intellect. For them, it is not enough for conservatives to be tolerant of people who don’t agree with conservative views, we must allow them to teach and say what ever they want under the sun, but we can not because to believe in God or speak about God is trying to establish religion by government which is not true and is simply practice of free speech.. There are many who have lashed out at Sarah Palin because she is who she is. Many in America are tired of being pushed around by Politicians who don;t care about Americans, they just care about staying in office. Our tax codes are disgusting, unfair and promote greed and mismanagement of our tax dollars. The IRS as an institution is worse than the worst snake oil salesman you can dream up and we have politicians to blame for ALL of it…. They pass the tax laws and then throw the taxes to the likes of Freddyand Fannie,allow their ceos to make big bonuses for making bad loans and doinmg tremendous harm to the financial markets and ther cry foul when ANYONE calls them to task….then they LIE,LIE, LIE—iF American voters continue to elect the Amoral to positions of power, this country will be taken down like the Israel of the Old Testament. Obama is a false prophet,because he thinks he can predict the future when he is just a manipulator like his Hollywood backers.

I looks like the democrats may be going down the drain. The debate looked like a politician going against an American. They may not have an answer for it and they may just need some Toilet Parts

If Pain was on the Obama ticket the republicans would be saying the same thing the liberals are.
I don’t think Obama has experience, however he has biden. If McCain kicks the Bucket Its just Palin. I don’t believe people have a problem with REPUBLICIANS ( or at least I don’t) I voted For our female Republican Governor. Its just that I haven’t heard anything about Palin that would make me think she could be president if she had to. All I keep hearing is FRESH FACE, NICE, DOWN TO EARTH , HOCKEY MOM , TALKS LIKE US and OIL. Or I hear That “the questions were too hard”, or “they didn’t ask Obama that’s question”. Nobody gives good reasons why she should be on the ticket. I have friends who are IN THE PTO, NICE, DOWN TO EARTH, FRENDLY, HARD WORKERS Have Kids but that doesn’t mean they should lead the free world. The world is going to hell in a handbag and I’m not comfortable with a “one of us hockey mom” to get us out. I just might vote Nader.

Exactly Jerimiah, both parties merely repersent the corporations and warmongers. The amount of money alone wasted on the campaigns is disgusting. I am tired of people fighting over each party as if they were football teams. We would have real discussions if the parties were dissolved, or there were more viable parties able to partake in the debates, where it was not this feeling of us against them.

yeah KSA and Palin had a mini transistor on her. Whatever, she had it easier with the moderator who let her blab on and on and not answer the q’s asked, but so waht??!!! Mccain’s an old fartbag, I dont know obama and Biden but I wont vote for them either!

I think it is obvious that Joe Biden had a copy of the questions prior to the debate! A couple of times he literally started READING his answer before the question was finished. Would that there were a way to find out and bring it to the light!!!

Tom, the third party idea is exactly what we need. Since when did Democrats or Republicans represent the entire country? We need an independent, moderate party to come in and send these people in Washington back home. An independent would be more apt to meeting the political desires of the nation as a whole.

I’m not voting, they all suck!!!

I’m still undecided to be honest. I wish we had a 3rd party that actually had a real chance of a nominee being in the contest.

Sarah Palin may now do Tina Fey.

Tom, thank you for recognizing that yes, the best candidates are gone. I will vote for McCain for only one reason, I feel he will do less damage to the country. Then in four years, hope that someone else wins.

Jerimiah, I agree, Hillary and Rudy were the best of the bunch. Cant see why you would like McCain if you liked either of them, unless I’m just assuming that you like McCain and then I apologize in advance.

So you picked it up then Sgt P since I dumbed it down? You still have not responded to the Pakistan issue. Why is that? Am I not correct? I am of the belief that we should be leaving the Middle East, aren’t you?

and to Sharon, you have said the most intelligent thing that is on this post so far. No matter who wins this race, we lose. The two most competent candidates, Hillary Clinton and Rudy Guiliani, are no longer in this race. I guess they didn’t have enough lobbyists to help them get the nomination.

Wow, sorry that “sarcasm” is a little beyond your range of understanding. I’ll dumb it down for you a little bit.

I think you’ve dumbed it down enough already.

Wow, sorry that “sarcasm” is a little beyond your range of understanding. I’ll dumb it down for you a little bit. It’s funny, you focused on the sarcastic remarks I made, Kathy and Sgt. P, yet you didn’t respond to the Pakistan issue, nor the the fact that I am correct on the tax issues. I’m sorry that my humor seemed to blind you from understanding the extent of the message, I will try in the future to use shorter words. If you can show that I am somehow wrong on the Pakistan comment by Obama, by all means, please do try.

They both lied, perhaps intentionally , perhaps due to being uninformed.
They both held their own.
No matter who wins things will be the same old status quo because the lobbyists run this country and unless that changes there will never be the changes most Americans hope for.

In my humble opinion there are no good choices and it’s sad that out of the huge county this is all we get to choose from.

well I hope your step dad didnt call her the word that McCain likes to call his wife!

Wow, sorry that “sarcasm” is a little beyond your range of understanding. I’ll dumb it down for you a little bit.

sarah is way prettier than hillary. I actually didnt mind hillary though, my stepdad called her a bad word every time he saw her.

And it all began by bashing Hillary, so it just goes to show that yes, the liberals are the closed-minded ones, who don’t want to see any woman succeed to the White House

what are you on crack? The Republicans bashed Hillary since day one! Twist much?

All of the sudden you get that stuff stuck inbetween your teeth and you can’t seem to get it out no matter how hard you try, and there is no toothpicks around, and then to top it off 2 hours later you get stuck in the bathroom due to your stomach not agreeing with the greasy ribs you ate. Yeah, I know, that bad.

who wrote that? who’s jerimiah? It’s stupid. This thread is full of dummies

There’s alot of illusions going on around here - mostly from our Democratic *friends*. Msnbc and Cnn have declared Biden the winner - so of course it must be true. All the wonderful, open-minded women of the “View” have declared Palin as “stupid” - so of course it must be true. And even Democratic contributors to this site have flatly stated that Palin didn’t measure up.

Chuckle…boy, I can feel the flopsweat now! Come on, Demmies - just get SNL to trot Tina out Saturday for another Sarah Bashing, and a few more brainwashed kids to sing Obama’s great glory (caught that one on tape). Oh, and don’t forget to have all those supposedly “impartial” assistants in Ohio *suggest* that homeless folks vote for Obama, all while they’re transporting them to the voting booth (caught that one on tape, too!). And of course, if Obama’s forces really get desperate, they can cajole Virgina teachers to wear blue to school, showing their support for Obama.

Last night, 68% on Fox News voted Sarah the winner, and today CNN says that 57% voted Joe the winner. Well, like Sarah said last night - ya can’t have it both ways. I would believe Fox News, Glenn Beck, etc., over CNN and MSNBC, anyday, because they’ve proven time and again that the fix is in for Obama by their extreme gender bias.

And it all began by bashing Hillary, so it just goes to show that yes, the liberals are the closed-minded ones, who don’t want to see any woman succeed to the White House. Well, this Independent will be voting for John and Sarah, because Obama feels only too comfortable with late-term abortions and making deals with terrorists - and John took a chance and chose one fearless fighter for the people as his running mate. Sounds like change to me…:)

haha I’m older than 7 and I can write better than what Jerimiah wrote, but he still is the man! You know why, cos he likes my Sarah!

wow cheesehead, you must have thought Jerimiah cut and paste because his posts are so danged long and not bothered to read his ramblings (not that I can blame you).

Synopsis: Obama= eating a good bbq and thinking at first it’s the greatest thing ever, then all of the sudden you get that stuff stuck inbetween your teeth and you can’t seem to get it out no matter how hard you try, and there is no toothpicks around, and then to top it off 2 hours later you get stuck in the bathroom due to your stomach not agreeing with the greasy ribs you ate. Yeah, I know, that bad.

I mean really, you wont see this written by anyone older that 7

who here likes Sarah more than McCain? I cant stand him, he’s gross, but I really love her, so I’m going to vote for him anyway and hope she gets to be president really soon! we need a woman as president!!!

where’s Dave?

you tell em jerimiah! sarah is fantastic!!!

By the way, I would challenge anyone to see if what I put forward about Obama’s stance on pakistan is incorrect. You can still watch the debate with McCain. It’s there, it’s blatant, and there is no mistak