Pro-choice women UNITE! We all know the male species sucks. They have messed things up for US in the past and they will do it again if we let them, but we stood up to them, though. We can be proud. Thanks to our great forewomen of the past, we have achieved our first mission: the RIGHT TO ABORTION. We now OWN our bodies, and we OWN the children in those bodies. They are mere slaves to our bodies. They HAVE NO RIGHTS! Say it louder and with power: WE OWN OUR BODIES! THEY ARE MERE SLAVES TO OUR BODIES! THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS! That’s right, girls, and all we need do is SPEAK and their voices will be silenced. With this in mind, consider this: we have the power to SILENCE MEN ONCE AND FOR ALL! We now have the technology to know whether the property dwelling within us is a girl or a boy. I SAY WE RISE UP. Rise up and make women voices the MAJORITY. We HAVE the ultimate power over life and death. And the moment that BIG BANG happens, we have the power to cut EVERY MAN to his knees (if we so choose) before he is ever born. And these men (ha,ha!), these men who were so easily DUPED into taking up our cause the first time…I’m sure we can get their type to help us again. NO ONE CAN TELL US “NO”! We ARE the CHOSEN ONES…and that miserable mistake dwelling within us cannot compare to our superiority. After all, we are dwellers of the outside world and they are mere slaves to the perimeters of OUR womb. We were meant to be. WE WERE THE CHOSEN. They have no value. My girls, it is written into law and NO ONE will take our “Rights” from us. WE are now the majority voice. It is our “right” as a woman and we BELIEVE IN OUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE. If anyone questions our belief…all we need to do is to tell them: “Who are YOU to question MY BELIEF SYSTEM, “MY” RIGHTS?” “Who are YOU to take MY CHOICE FROM ME?” What do you say, girls? Let’s start the next GREAT REVOLUTION! WE HAVE THE POWER! WE ARE WOMEN! AND WE WILL ROAR! The next meeting will be at Mindy’s on Thursday, 7:00p.m. Tell your other half that we’re just having a girl’s night out! TTFN (ta,ta, for now!) P.S. Nancy P. will be our first speaker!

I am amazed at how many people claim to know what God, the unknowable, thinks. Pro-choice is simply that–a person can make a choice based on his/her own personal beliefs. I don’t see too many of the supposedly “prolife” posters expressing the same moral outrage over the wasteful war in Iraq, or over the failure to provide for the children acutally born into this world–in the US and elsewhere–without food, shelter or a reasonable chance. Until the supposedly “prolife” crowd shows some consistency in its theology and moral outlook (and I know many do, but those people usually also show some compassion and understanding) I will pray that they find the wisdom and tolerance of the sermon on the mount and the beatitudes.

…Her Holiness Nancy Pelosi claims that Obama’s leadership and talents are a gift from God.

But then that begs the question: does she also believe that the potential leadership and talents of the UNBORN are a gift from God, too?

…Her Holiness Nancy Pelosi claims the Catholic Church is ambiguous concerning the abortion issue; therefore, abortion is acceptable.

That, too, begs the question: Does she REALLY believe that God would want society to play favorites–pit mother against child, as if one is less important or more important than the other? Does she REALLY believe this is an opinion the Catholic Church would REALLY adopt?

In Her Holiness’ defense, maybe she thinks that because the Catholic Church is willing to forgive the sin of abortion (if someone asks and is truly sorry) that this implies a stamp of approval for the “practice” of abortion?

For Nancy Pelosi and Obama, an unborn baby during an abortion is like that tree falling in the middle of a forest with no one around: no matter how much noise it makes, it falls on their deaf ears.

To Jas who said:

“Leviticus 24:12-16 tells of a man who cursed God.

‘The Lord said to Moses, “Take that man out of the camp. Everyone who heard him curse shall put their hands on the man’s head to testify that he is guilty, and then the whole community shall stone him to death. Then tell the people of Israel that anyone who curses God must suffer the consequences and be put to death.’

Is this a Catholic position that you support ? Must others support it to be considered Catholic ?

The Catholic Church has been wrong before, and they’ll be wrong again. That’s human nature. Most Catholics I know (and I’m one) consider these things carefully, rather than accepting everything the Church says at face value.”

Jas you show just how little you know about Catholicism. The book of Leviticus is Jewish law as given to Moses. We Christians (or I should say we educated Christians because you obviously don’t know this) know that Christ said “You have heard it said an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but I say to you do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone stirkes you on the right cheek, turn the other also..” Mt 5:38 Christ came to fulfill the law.

The Catholic Church has never been wrong in her doctrine or dogma, in other words in her teachings on faith and morals. Of course individuals within the Church have been wrong as she is a Church full of sinners. The Catholic Church does not ask you to accept her teachings “at face value” but invites you to learn why she teaches what she does. You also say it’s human nature to be wrong, but those of us faithful Catholics know that the Church is divinely guided and that is why she has never been wrong in doctrine or dogma. Please learn the Catholic faith before going onto blogs, pronouncing yourself Catholic and claiming to know something. If you choose to remain a dissident Catholic, like Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, and all the others, then please leave us alone. Do not come to recieve the Eucharist until you change your views, because when you say “Amen” before receiving, you are saying “Amen” to everything the Church teaches. I tell you this not out of hatred, but out of charity and because Christ himself commands it ithrough the spiritual works of mercy “Admonish the sinner” and “Instruct the ignorant.” Until that time, we the faithful, will continue to pray for your conversion.

I think Pelosi constituents should use the new website REALVOTER.com and let her know directly from those verified constituents what they think of her statements.

What everyone is missing is the absolute beauty of the 2000 year teaching authority of the Catholic Church pased on from Christ through Peter. The Bishops are making it very clear what the teaching is on abortion passed on to them (the deposit of faith) from the Apostles who heard it first hand from Jesus Christ. Without the Truth of Christ protected and professed by the Catholic Church, there would only be 36,000 different Protestant congregation’s personal interpretation of Christ’s teaching. “you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my Church….to you I give the keys to the Kingdom……whatever you bound on earth will be bound in Heaven, whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven.”

Why not ask all these fighters for pro-choice if they’ve ever had an abortion. I have in my younger years when I was young and stupid and fell for the hogwash that it was a women’s right. I wonder if those who would admit like me ever have heard that unborn child cry in their dreams, for if they haven’t then we all can count them in the “NO THOUGHT ABOUT IT” catergory. This is the core of the problem in this society—- don’t care what I do just as long as there are those out there who agree with me. We can agree to disagree but, now you have met a woman who has had an abortion and it is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. AND I REPEAT !

Nancy Pelosi cannot speak for the Catholic Church, and can she no longer delude herself about the Church’s stance after being informed by so many bishops from around the country. Unfortunately, she is speaking the rhetoric of the Democratic party which has made pro-choice the only acceptable stance for its members. There are many “good” ideas in the democratic party, however, their pro-choice stance is a glaring and insurmountable obstacle for many voters, no matter how politicians try to gloss over the realities of abortion. It is “politically correct” to protect, by law, animals and endangered species, i.e., nests of turtle eggs (unborn turtles) are protected from destruction, yet it is not “politically correct” to protect unborn human beings from destruction. Is the life of a human being any less valuable than turtles? Isn’t this discrimination on grounds of species? of size?

My family has lived in California since before there was a United States of America. I can’t imagine what my ancestors would say about the 20th century transplants who have moved in and now buck all what they originally stood for. The two most infested, densely-packed population centers in our state now rule what is mostly a family-based, hard-working, slightly conservative-leaning population due to scandalously engineered district lines. Having completely wacky district benches in place serves to fortify the problem.

We have a lot of work to do out here to keep ourselves from ever again voting in such farces as Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and a slew of other hypocrites. Let our shame be our fuel!

Pelosi-pelosi?? Just how manny of thease doe’s it take to screw in a light bulb hmmmm….

I think most of the postings here miss the point of this article. I am not a Catholic nor do I profess to be an expert on Catholic teaching. However, if one claims to be a Catholic, then should it not follow that one follows the teachings of the Catholic Church? The bishops who have responded to Ms. Pelosi said nothing about imposing Catholic doctrine on non-Catholics. That isn’t the point. There is a word we use for those who say they believe something and then behave as if they don’t. We call those people hypocrites. Ms. Pelosi has a choice to make. Does she want to be a Catholic or does she want to be pro-choice? If she wants to continue to receive communion, perhaps she should rethink her opposition to church teaching. If she chooses to continue to support choice for women, perhaps she should not take communion. That is her choice to make as it is the choice for all politicians in this country who are pro-choice yet claim to be Catholics. It affects the rest of us only in so far as we are personally and privately struggling with the same issues. Sometimes, our choices really are mutually exclusive. Ms. Pelosi started this exchange with her response on a national news program. Neither she nor we should be surprised that the Catholic bishops felt it necessary to correct her misrepresentations about Catholic doctrine.

Little Miss Nancy never held a still born granddaughter and after four long years it still tears my heart out.
The DR. aloud my daughter in law to go to long and the cord stoped blood flow to my grandaughter. She was still Born.
How can any one end a helpless life with abortion.
Abortion is not birth control it murder.
If Miss Nancy had a heart in that sanctimonious body of hers she would believe life starts at conseption

To Russell, who said:

“To be a Catholic one believes what the Catholic Church believes. Believing something different makes one something other than Catholic.”

Leviticus 24:12-16 tells of a man who cursed God.

“The Lord said to Moses, “Take that man out of the camp. Everyone who heard him curse shall put their hands on the man’s head to testify that he is guilty, and then the whole community shall stone him to death. Then tell the people of Israel that anyone who curses God must suffer the consequences and be put to death.”

Is this a Catholic position that you support ? Must others support it to be considered Catholic ?

The Catholic Church has been wrong before, and they’ll be wrong again. That’s human nature. Most Catholics I know (and I’m one) consider these things carefully, rather than accepting everything the Church says at face value.

Instead of resorting to bashing Ms. Pelosi, maybe we all, Catholic, non-catholic alike, need to pray for her. She is obviously not up on Catholic theology for one - but, she isn’t in the minority in this case. A lot of Catholics have a “cafeteria Catholic” philosophy toward their faith. “Oh, I’ll go to church on Christmas and Easter”, “I’m Catholic, but pro-death penalty”, etc.

Ms. Pelosi’s comments only bring out what exists in the Catholic faith, now more than ever. We, as Catholics, CANNOT sit and pick and choose what we are going to believe. Folks, it’s all or nothing! THE CAFETERIA IS CLOSED!

Pray for those who have the same mindset as Ms. Pelosi. She isn’t the only one who feels this way, but a person in her position only makes the problem worse.

Well, it seems there are a lot of people uneducated about the Church, since any Catholic worth their salt already KNOWS that Augustine was, well, quite the party boy, before he became Catholic. It’s not exactly a secret, unless you don’t know much about the church to start with. Then everything has some dark oppressive twist to it. Kind of like the people who tell me I am a Mary-worshipper, ummm, I have never worshipped Mary, but I guess I am not allowed to know my own mind….I’m just a Catholic minion. There is a great quote I heard somewhere, “most people don’t hate the Catholic Church, they hate what they THINK they know about the Catholic Church.” I’ve found it to be a very accurate statement. And if you want to test it, marry into a Sola Scriptura family. You’ll see what I mean.

As far as Pelosi goes, (and those like her) there are too many politicians who have exhibited that they don’t stand for anything. I am very Pro-Life (um, unlike some people I can say date rape is NOT any reason for an abortion, and having been there, having my son was the most healing event of the whole episode.) But regardless of opinion, on this or any subject, you have to walk the walk AND talk the talk or it’s all just lip service. For example, if I believe in responsible stewardship of the planet, I should walk to my nearest grocery store whenever possible, refuse to buy plastics/vinyls (they are pretrol by products, at least some of them), turn my lights off when not in use, encourage my children towards toys that do not need to be plugged in, make a point of buying clothes/linens of a non-synthetic nature (say, all cotten or wool). Only then can I say I believe in being green. It’s the same with everything else. If you beleive a certain way, then you must live your life in accordance with that, or the end result is that you are a liar and a hypocrite.

I have to say that I am quite disapointed in some the disparaging remarks being made on this blog especially by those who claim to call Christ their Lord and Savior.

With the exeption of some very fringe Christian groups/individuals the debate with regards to abortion is over. Let’s face it, if Aquinas or Augustine were around today and were privy to the scientific knowledge that the theologians of today have, it is a very long stretch to believe that they would come to a different position regarding the sanctity of human life. If you read the whole body of both Aquinas and Augustine’s works you come to realize that they adhere to a moral code that is based on absolutes and when they would stumble upon a grey area (abortion is NOT a grey area) the morally right action to take is always on the side of caution.

Nancy Pelosi is a ‘nit-whit’ and should be IMPEACHED for incompentency!!!

To be a Catholic one believes what the Catholic Church believes. Believing something different makes one something other than Catholic. I believe Nancy Pelosi is in serious spiritual trouble and hope she turns to God for the answers she so desperately needs.

Pelosi is the most ignorant woman in the House and the only reason she gets elected is because the place she lives is S.F. I live in Southern calif. and I hate the fact that S.F. is part of our wonderful state. Send all of them to India!

The idea of seperation of church and state evidently has evaded Pelosi. The idea of the founding fathers was not to keep the church out of influencing state policy but was to keep the state out of influencing church doctrine, as in China. Something liberal Cathlics have been guilty of since the 1960’s.

I am not Catholic so what the catholic church says has very little effect on my life. Ms. Pelosi, however by her own admissions has put herself under the authority of the church and it’s teachings.

Alot of people are whining about the seperation of Church and State. Why? As many people believe in Christ’s church as don’t. Why can one side demand that the other go away? It is because of the same constitution. Everyone has rights. We need to learn to agree to disagree and move on.

If is acceptable to belittle a christian’s belief but they better not tell you what to do with your body. What a sad state of affairs. If a christian is wrong in their thinking what have they lost? However, if the rest of the world is wrong, it has cost them an eternity in Satans Hell.

The blind will never see if not shown Christ’s love. Satan is the champion @ his job. He loves all of this fighting and bickering. “Choose you this day whom you will serve. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.”

You all need a big dose of Jesus.

Nancy Pelosi is STUPID !! These kinds of comments from her on this issue as well as other issues indicate why our country is in the position it is. There needs to be someone in that position that has some intelligence.

Wow… the ignorance on display is amazing. So many uneducated people talking about something they know nothing about. You can do what you want, you have been given Free Will… but you must be prepared to accept the consequences. I will not FORCE my views and beliefs on you, but that does not mean we cannot share them with each other.

I cannot believe the outright stubborn ignorance of you know-it-alls who think it is republican/ democrat, or only about YOUR body… This is about a human soul. One that is born in Heaven before it is born on earth. You can’t pinpoint conception, but it doesn’t matter. When someone knows they are with child, they also know another soul is in their body.

Also, to my fellow Catholics and Christians, please make sure you study up and check your basic facts… some things have been a little off center and others kind of mixed together.

For those of you who are not “religious”, I truly pity you. Your minds are so incredibly closed off and cannot see, nor comprehend the TRUTH of our world… I truly pity you.

I am a woman and born again, evangelical Christian. If it comes down to labels you’d have to put me firmly in the pro-life camp. But all this discussion regarding McCain, Obama and Pelosi’s comments on “abortion” just keep bringing to mind a discussion I had with my lab partners in my Developmental Biology course at Christian College. I forget exactly how the topic came up (probably some political headline at the time) or what was said, but I had been listening to them discuss this matter. Eventually I made a simple comment that I was BOTH pro-choice AND pro-life.
Flabergasted they (both guys) turned on me and insisted it just wasn’t possible. Then I made the important clarification that I happen to believe that “a woman’s right to choose” in most cases can and should occur BEFORE intercourse, not AFTER.
I would like to think most of those who consider themselves to be pro-life feel the same way, and I get rather bothered by those who are pro-choice, extremely liberal, atheists or whatever insisting that people who are pro-life and care enough to say something about it publicly are necessarily “anti-choice” or trying to “impose their views on everyone” or will insist a rape or incest victim bear a child conceived by force or violence to term. Yes a woman has a right to do whatever she wishes with HER body. But once a child is conceived, we aren’t just talking about HER body and HER rights. There is another, biologically distinct being (child, embryo, fetus, blob of tissue–whatever you want to call it–it is biologically distinct from the woman) in the picture. This is why Pastor Warren’s question was so great. The issue of when and where we award human rights to others is far far deeper than the matter of abortion alone and I think that has gotten completely lost in all the furor over these recent comments.
The only fail safe way to prevent pregnancy is abstinance from sexual intercourse. If a woman does not wish to be pregnant, she can and should take whatever steps necessary to prevent it. But she should also approach intercourse with the full knowledge that her preventive methods of choice may not work–and act with some sense that there is something or someone else to consider if that happens. Is this really too much to ask?

“I’m amazed at the level of deafness! … But when should full human rights be given? When should a fetus or embryo be given rights equal to that of its mother whom it completely relies upon for life? These are tough questions. When McCain answered a 5 word response, “At the moment of conception”, it showed me two things: 1) he didn’t understand the question being about full human rights rather than life; and 2) He is a lazy thinker because an oversimplistic answer is innappropriate for such a complex issue.”

1. From a Christian point of view - at conception. Based on the Bible God has planned all and knows his creation from the moment of conception, down to their fingerprints etc.

2. From a legal view - when a pregnant woman is involved in a crime of violence, affecting the health of the unborn baby, it has been the ruling of the courts that additional counts are brought against the defendant based on this harm to the unborn, thus providing de facto rights on the unborn child.

Abortion is NOT birth control. It is the lazy way out for someone who sleeps around and was too lazy to take proper precaution. 30 million unborn have been mass murdered since the early 70s. Think on this and weap. Was there another Einstein in that lot? Another Aristotle? Another Wyland? Another JFK or MLK? We will never know.

Pelosi is a born fool who ought to be impeached.

I do not think Pelosi is as stupid as people think she is. However, those that believe her prattling are very stupid & gullible. The two words that most accurately describe her are scandalous (I have seen that one used in your articles) and hypocrite (which I have not yet seen her described as).

I’m quite surprised at some of the comments relating to this article. I’ve always been perplexed at the phrase “the right to choose what I do to my own body.” Obviously the choice was made when two people chose to jump into bed together. The responsibility is equal to both parties male and female, so why should the third party who did not have the choice and is not given a choice in the event of an abortion, the unborn child, pay the ultimate price when the two who made their choice then decide it was not such a well thought out choice. I believe this country has one of it’s foundations in looking out for the week and the poor, to support those who have little or no voice for themselves. It’s time we put our action to our ideals and not just fill the air with empty words.

I am always amazed at how those who call themselves Christians (this includes all denominations that say they believe and follow Jesus) can have an opinion on matters concerning life that does not line up with what the Bible says. Jeremiah chapter 1 verse 5 should clear up any misconception on how God sees life. I know that those of us that proclaim to be Christians will make mistakes and not measure up to what God is asking of us; But I beg you never let that be a reason to depart from what is Truth. I have found that many poeple who say that they are christians do not want to follow God in their life but some how they do believe that heaven awaits them in death Hebrews 9 vs 27 should answer this. I hope that if you are not a Christian please don’t be upset with me because I was not directing these comments at you Romans 8 verses 5-9 should explain why. To those of you that state that you are a Christian the same chapter verses 1-4 should explain why you should not have an opinion about a matter involving life that does not come from God’s word

Pelosi and the DNC blew it by allowing the Planned Parenthood organization a spot as a speaker on Monday. This was a slap in the face to all of us that are moderates and believe both sides should tone it down. Anyway, Obama and the Democrats are far from the center.

Pelosi & her Democratic controlled congress have already proven to be the worst in American history. And her foot-in-mouth comments just keep flowing. Can’t wait until Hillary replaces her and begins comprimising on issues to get things done (and position herself for 2012).

On the abortion issue, I’m not a religious guy but it seems pretty straight forward to me. Life begins at conception, when the cells start dividing. All the women who defiantly claim it’s their choice to abort a life in the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd trimester will be explaining their decision to God on judgement day. I’m sure he will be real understanding.

Over 70% of Americans support choice rights for women. Enough said. Abortion will be, and naturally, should be legal.

Right-to-lifers are, typically, hypocrites….wanting rights for fetuses, meanwhile howling that we EXPAND the death penalty. Pro-life? What a joke.

Just another example of how stupid and shallow this woman is…and how ANYONE can be elected by the liberals if they are willing to expand their agenda…What a sad day for those who fight everyday for our freedom and the freedom of the most vulnerable. Hopefully Ms. Pelosi’s constituents will see her as the dull, shallow person she is and get rid of her in the next election.

I wonder how Paloozer interprets the Catholic teachings on dishonesty? Its OK if you are a West Coast Catholic?

When does life begin? I choose the side of respecting life. If I am wrong then I am guilty of supressing choice. If pro-choice is wrong then they are guilty of murdering babies. The scale weighs in favor of respecting life over choice.

Mentioning Ex 21:22 was fine, but forgot to mention the verses directly after this one verse that makes it clear that God protects the baby while in vitro just as if the baby was born. The three verses that follow say:
23And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

24Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

25Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

“Life for life”, meaning if baby dies, the person responsible is to be given the death penalty.

I believe life starts at conception when the egg and sperm join. Anyone who has been pregnant and had an early sonogram for confirmation has seen the heart beating. How can their be a heart beat and no life? Women who say that they have the right to decide need to learn responsibility. Get educated, get birth control, or take responsibility for your actions. I do not understand how any woman with any kind of morals or heart could end the life of a child. To me it show the ultimate selfishness and irresponsibility to end the life of a child for your convenience. If you are a grown woman with any intelligence either make sure you don’t get pregnant or live with it. I have three children, I did not plan for the third. My husband and I sat around with the test putting off the inevitable. Now, I know that God knew more about what we needed than we did. Our son has been a blessing that we never would have knew. My answer after that? Tubal ligation (responsibility again).

Most politicians, from both sides of the aisle, continually claim that their statements are taken out of context. This is a perfect example of just that. St. Augustine 1) is not here to defend his statements, 2) is not here to expound on his statements, and 3) is clearly being misrepresented by someone who has chosen to take a small statement of his and use it to justify a belief of hers.

Back when St. Augustine, and Aquinas for that matter, were around, there were no “First Response” pregnancy tests. In fact, it’s pretty likely that the first flutter was the first sign for a woman that she was pregnant. So, now in this age of “enlightenment”, so to speak, when a woman first truly knows she is pregnant, what would these wise men have stated as the moment an embryo has “life”. I’m not going to say because, well, I don’t know them! I do think, however, that in this situation, when trying to debate the position of the church on the matter, it would be best to go to the source of it’s belief That would be God. I think many pro-life religious folks find their answer in Psalm 139, but we don’t hear many politicians quote that very often.

As for Genesis, we were created in “His” image, which if you also believe that God is the alpha and omega, beginning and end, that He existed before life began and will be here to the ends of earth and beyond, you’d have to believe that in our creation we were filled with life from the start - God, Jesus, is life. (John 14:6)

It’s safe to say that each of us are on a journey to figuring out what we believe and why we believe it - Pelosi is clearly on that same journey. Where you are in that journey will determine where you fall in this debate, for sure. I’m in the “life begins at conception or before” so I’m not threatened by Pelosi at all…. I’m just surprised that she would think it’s OK to misrepresent a church belief in this way. She had to know it was a bad idea!

To the recovering Catholic: When Mary was visited by the Holy Spirit she was told at that point she would be carrying the son of God. She was not told after 3 weeks or 3 months.

Women should be expected to accept the reasponsibility for there actions instead of murdering anything that gets in there way.

An important point missed here is that she is supporting that life starts at three months, so all abortion after that period should be banned. We all know she supports abortion up to the point where at 9 months the baby enters the world (she supports partial-birth, late term abortion).

To the poster “Jesus”…..and the many other non-intellects in this forum. In response to your question “WWJD”, Jesus would drive the filthy money-changers out of the temple. But more than likely, He will wait and all will be made right on the day each of us sees our Maker. If you don’t believe in God, I guess you’re home free…..but then again, maybe not. I chose to believe, live a satisfying life, and have lost nothing. Those who choose not to believe there is a God and that we must answer to Him….well, good luck with that because if you’re wrong…you’ve lost everything. I truly don’t want that for anyone. Please take time to study and know all there is to know before making your final decision.

Take a look at the book “Surprised by Joy” by C.S. Lewis. He started out trying to disprove Christianity and ended up being one. Many other intellects have experienced the same.

Re: Pelosi, I doubt many Americans take her seriously, but the entertainment value is huge. What has she accomplished as Speaker that is of any substance? Nada, zippo. The fact that she has gaffed again is just another day at the office.

Hey, you all worship Obama with glazed eyes, so you believe in imaginary beings too But I guess he’s “tangible”…..sort of.

Pelosi is so wrong.
Jeremiah 1:5

The Lord spoke; “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Before you were born I sanctified you.

How can she say, what she said and be a Christian yet alone a Catholic.. shame on her. I would hate to be her when she has to face God and explain her stand on abortion.

Why is the media only focusing on the abortion issue? The biggest gaff Pelosi made was when she referred to natural gas as an alternative to fossil fuel. This woman clearly needs to be educated on the basics of all fuels. Anyone with any knowledge at all knows natural gas is a fossil fuel.

Shame on Nancy Pelosi!!!

So much vitriole against the Catholic Church just because we’re trying to clarify what we stand for and what we believe. I didn’t hear any condemnation of any non-Catholic who espouses these views. The point is, if you are Catholic, there are rules, if you don’t like those rules, leave. But you cannot defy those rules, lie about the rules and still publically call yourself a Catholic. It’s kind of like, if you’re a Democrat, you can’t be opposed to abortion and speak publically against it. That’s against the rules and you will be either asked to leave, or taken out by security.

And also, I’m tired of this mythology of how Catholics are constantly imposing their views on others. Give me a break! Catholic priests hardly impose Catholic views on the people in the pews! Nancy Pelosi is obvious proof of that!

Well, the moronic left wing of California keeps electing this idiot. So we get what we deserve. And people say George W is stupid.

Recovering Catholic - Christ did indeed let us know who had control over our bodies - they are temples of the Holy Spirit. Still for destroying God’s dwelling place? Hope your recovery continues.

It is time for abortion to STOP in America!

For those arguing about it being a CHOICE…(no bigger lie in existence than the alleged ‘choice’ argument - it is a PRO ABORTION stance… but the cowards in the media won’t identify it for what it is).

Are you offering the MAN in the situation a CHOICE of not becoming a father after the fact? Can the MAN CHOOSE not to be involved? No - he can’t. The woman names him on the Birth Certificate and he’s on the hook for child support.

And what about the HUMAN BEING’S CHOICE? Yes, I know you want to deny it - but evaluate it scientifically - upon fertilization of the egg by the sperm, what does the DNA map indicate? OH - a HUMAN BEING.

Is there (outside of weekly world news) any evidence that a woman has given birth to anything but a human being?

Like it or not - zygote, embryo, fetus, infant, toddler, child, pre-teen, tween, teenager, young adult, adult, senior citizen… all are terms for a human being at a particular stage of development. It is never a CHOICE, it is always a HUMAN BEING.

Jayster- She wants to impose her view on the rest of the world? In what way is being pro-choice imposing your view on the rest of the world? Why do so-called “pro-life” (what a stupid term - as though advocates of abortion are against life!) people come up with this argument? It doesn’t mean pro-choice advocates are trying to force people into having an abortion, and it’s about individual circumstances. Being pro-choice does not necessarily mean accepting abortions should be available in every instance but rather reviewed on a case by case basis - for example, having a blanket ban on abortion would then take away the choice for a woman who was raped and got pregnant from having an abortion.

Well it seems that Nancy Pelosi is a woman of great genius. On the same day she forgot her upbring in the Catholic church she asked a group of protestors if she could drill their brains. I guess being a liberal left a person can speak and view things as only they know how.

I cannot being to wonder why the Congress has such a low approval rating.

I would like to comment on the knucklehead that said that no religous views are the basis of any law, he clearly does not know that tha bulk of U.S. laws are based on the English commonlaw which is Based in a little thing called the TEN COMMANDMENTS. Also all great lawmakers throughout history have based thier laws in some form of religion real or not.

Dear Mrs. Speaker,

Please for the sake of yourselves and others in the democratic party, please refrain from going into waters where you are not familiar. Stick to the senseless murder of unborn children, science which eliminates life and proof that God exists, elimination of God from public society, and the elimination of the family unit. By doing so, you will not continue to gaff on issues that us Republicans are experts. This will save you a world of heartache and pain. Thank you,

Your friend and fellow American..

Robert J. Smith, SGT

PS: Love ya!!

What a lot of nonsense you people write to justify denying poor women the right to manage their own bodies! The life of a fetus begins at conception. The life of a person begins at birth. Got it?

Only women of child-bearing age need a position on abortion. It is hypocrisy for others to take a “moral” position on an issue that can never affect them.

And, who in his right mind would consult the elderly celibates of the Roman Catholic church on matters of reproduction and family?

Coincidentally, tonight’s speech by the god Barack falls on the Feast of St. Augustine.

There are two First Century writings that state the Church’s opposition to abortion:

The Didache aka The Teachings of the Apostles to the Gentiles and the Epistle of Barnabas, who was a companion of St. Paul.

If you want the Catholic Church to stay out of politics, then tell Nancy Pelosi to stay out of making stupid statements like this. They wouldn’t have come out and said anything if she hadn’t tried to
make statements about church history that she knows nothing about.

To assume that all who believe in God are unintelligent is truly idiotic. Are all physicists stupid because they believe in invisible quarks? There is a lot more evidence for Christ than there is for quarks. Read the book “What’s So Great About Christianity”.

Don’t be afraid of concepts that you don’t understand. If you are smart enough to be an atheist, you may some day be able to learn that you were wrong all those years. Hopefully, that will happen before it’s too late for you!

To view the Church as a bad thing because some of it’s members have done bad things is also idiotic.

I’m so tired of anti american liberals telling me how to think, feel or do. I believe in Jesus Christ and liberals with all their political correctness will never, never take that belief from me. As a former democrat, I will not vote for Obama. God help us all if our government is handed over to America-hating liberals.

Someone wrote “If the moment life begins is at CONCEPTION, let the Pope pronounce it so Ex Cathedra.” The Pope does not have to declare it Ex Cathedra. It is a definitive doctrine of the Catholic Church and must be followed for one to remain in the Church. If not followed then the person dissenting from this doctrine has effectively excommunicated themselves. The grave sin of abortion was writtin in the first century (as early as 50-60 AD according to modern scholarship) in a document called the Didache.

To those of you that are mad about the Catholic point of view, or believe the church is trying to impose its belief upon you, let me point out some facts. One, you can only make those arguments because someone else decided to have you instead of abort you. And two, sex was never meant to be safe. In 1900, there were only about 26 known Sexually Transmitted Diseases, now there are over 100, and many of these are no longer able to be treated by traditional methods. Further, the incidence of other diseases, such as Cervical, Prostate, Uterine, and Testicular Cancers have dramatically increased. Is that entirely because of the rampant promiscuity in our society today, frankly, I don’t know, but it is an amazing coincidence. Just a little food for thought.

Would one of the authors who stated above that “no one has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body, but the woman” at least concede that no one should have the right to tax my income to pay for someone’s abortion? It happens thousands of times every year in the US.

It seems hypocritical to me that the vast majority of pro-choice women who vehemently oppose any erosion of their “right to an abortion” also end up being liberal on some many other issues. You have no problem taking 40% percent of my income to fund government projects that I do not support, you have no problem telling a business owner that they can not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, etc. and you have no problem forcing Catholic Hospitals to provide Plan B to rape victims. It’s a free country, but only for you and your uterus, but for the rest of us, it’s a different story.

seems we ordinary americans just don’t matter ..we just vote for these dem’s and never get it right.maybe we need another party ..or we should vote