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On Conservative Comments

By Bob Beckel
Democratic Strategist/FOX News Political Contributor

I want to thank the hundreds of FOX Forum readers who commented on my last post concerning the arrogance of George Bush. The response from many self-described “Republicans,” “conservatives” and “right wingers,” brought tears to these liberal eyes. The warmth; “you left-wing commie,” the understanding; “you idiot,” the compassion; “screw you” meant more to me then you can possibly know.

Is it my imagination, or are many of you angry? If I were a Republican and facing the rejection of conservatism on an unprecedented scale this coming November, I suppose I’d be angry as well.Perhaps I can help you understand why your political philosophy is about to be rejected by the American people.

Here are just some of the reasons:

1. Conservatives are supposed to be fiscally responsible yet when your crowd inherited a trillion-dollar surplus from Bill Clinton, Bush/Cheney and a Republican Congress turned it into a $3-trillion-dollar deficit.
2. Conservatives strongly support the war in Iraq but won’t help pay for it. Never has our country been at war without asking and getting our citizens to help bear the financial burden…until this war. Conservatives don’t want to give up Bush’s tax cuts for the top 5% of wage earners to help pay for this war. Why?
3. The American people got tired of being lectured on “family values” by conservative clergy and Republican members of Congress, e.g. Larry Craig, who didn’t practice what they preached.
4. Or maybe the voters got tired of Republicans controlling the US House of Representatives for 12 years during which they handed out more wasteful pork projects than all the pork handed out by Democrats in the 42 years preceding the GOP takeover.
5. Or maybe voters got angry when they learned the Vice President of the United States manipulated intelligence and misled the American people on why war with Iraq was in our national security interests.
6. Or maybe the public didn’t like George Bush vetoing legislation to provide health insurance for millions of kids.
7. Or maybe the public got embarrassed by Republicans in the Bush Administration who refused, in the face of overwhelming evidence, to accept the reality of global warming, aka “The Flat Earth Society”.

It’s not conservatives but conservative leaders who have caused the problems. I’ve seen liberalism hijacked by incompetent leaders and watched the resulting rejection by voters. I know you all think liberal leaders are still not competent, but that’s not the issue. It is time for conservatives to do some soul searching and find new leaders. Believe it or not I wish you well.

You know what’s sad? Most conservatives I meet are nice people. Even those of you who attack me with your comments are probably decent people who believe your political agenda is the right one. For many of the preceding three decades most Americans agreed with you. I believe you love your country and are patriots. I can disagree with your politics but not do it disagreeably.

So what is sad is that I feel compelled to write this because some of you refuse to grant me the same understanding. I believe in a liberal political agenda. I have a right to believe what I believe without you calling me a commie. I also love my country so please don’t call me unpatriotic. I’m a father who loves his family so please don’t accuse me of being “anti-family” as some of you have.

This time around my side will win and I believe by a big margin. You don’t have to like it, but perhaps you might refrain from “hating” my side. In all the years of Republican control I never accused anyone of being unpatriotic, or fascist, or bad people. Maybe you would grant my side the same courtesy.

Happy 4th of July and God bless America and you.

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Comment by Mason

I find your comments interesting and you are right we need new conservatives leaders..You are perhaps right about global warming however I am surprised that you did not know that since the late nineties our earth has cooled..just look at the NASA findings, you are totally wrong when you blame it on Humans. First it is an impossiblity that the small increase in carbon dioxide could fuel so disatrous results..I have a PH.D. in heat transfer and have played around in the absorption of energy by gases…too bad most of the scioentists did not have any expertise in this area, furethermore about three years ago when I proposed that some of the warming in the Artic was caused by underwater volcanos along the Atlantic Ridge, now it seems some scientist are discovedring that there has been activ underwater volcanos in this region. The Atlantic Rift exist in Icelan and that where Iceland get all its thermal energy. It then exisr Icelan towards the northwest the turn paralle to the coast of Greenland and then procxeed northeast where all of the permafrost and polar bear problem exist. Even in the remote possiblity that mankind is involved, the latest study by the EPA, even after Draconian methods be emp;loyed, could only reduce the temperature by a fraction of a degree. Too bad many journmalist don’t read what theydon’t like to hear

 
Comment by William Cossaboom

It is with great regret that I concede many of your points. My Party has disappointed me in the last few years. It has left our principles behind and adopted those of the Democrats…wasteful spending, lack of a moral compass, not to mention, the confusion of the terms “Republican” and “Conservative”.

To some degree I think we need Obama to win in November so that the country can be reminded of how ineffective a Liberal Democrat can be, especially one so light in experience. I am old enough to remember the Carter years…rampant inflation, new taxes, cuts in military spending, interest rates in the stratosphere. If you think this is preferable, I feel very sorry for you, Mr. Beckel, very sorry, indeed.

 
Comment by Paul

You are mostly correct on the reasons conservatism has failed. You neglected to mention the main reason: The Republicans in office are not conservatives. They say they’re conservatives. They pretend to be conservatives. With the exception of a few, they are not conservatives. When Democrats and Liberals call me a “neocon” I take no offense. Why? Neocons are not conservatives. In my estimation, a neocon is a left leaning Republican. In essence, the voters are rejecting a form of liberalism. It happened under Clinton when Republicans took control of Congress. And just like the mid 90’s when Democrats were trying to change this country into a nation Hugo Chavez would be proud of, it will be rejected once again when and if Democrats elect Carter - I mean Obama - and remind Americans what real liberalism is in 2008.

 
Comment by Ralph Schaffner

Bob,

Unfortunately we conservatives (the majority I talk to) have been embarrassed by the current Republican administration. We have the same problem with the extremists on the right as the liberals have with those on the left. Both sides have their wackos.

The problem as I see it is that the majority are not extremists. We are probably close to agreement on many issues, and there is room for understanding on the others. I have a feeling that the press needs the more radical disagreements and issues in order to build their respective audiences, and are in large part responsible for creating a perception that there are bigger differences than there are in fact.

By the way, as a recent ex-Republican I think George Bush is arrogant!

 
Comment by it_is_what_it_is

Thank you BP for the great comments. Saved me a lot of typing.

But one continual talking point of the Liberal Left is beyond my comprehension, and one that Bob uses in his commentary. The question of whether or not the war in Iraq was contrived by Bush/Cheney is begging clarification. I want an honest, intellectual answer to the request for evidence that “Bush lied”.

Every western nation, and many socialist nations, believed Iraq was a threat based on their own intelligence that collaborated with the US.

The Democrats in Congress (Hillary, et al) stood on the Senate floor and talked about the tremendous threat of Iraq to the interest of western nations. They had the EXACT information that was provided to the President and formed the same opinions.

Blood for oil just doesn’t fly….there are big cats in the Democratic party that own a ton of investments in oil.

At his very core, Bush’s personal principles would not allow him to start a war for any oil cronies. You can call him stupid, incompetent, retarded….whatever, but it’s not in him. You can say he made a bad decision to go into Iraq, the war was mis-managed, or the influence of insurgents was a blindside.

But get off the “Bush lied” talking point. And don’t send a bunch of links to Liberal blog sites to try and prove it wrong, or cite disgruntled government officials making money off of books. Cold hard facts are needed.

 
Comment by Bill Reis

Dear Bob,
Me thinks you pat yourself too much on the back; I am going to address each of your seven issues individually, please give my read the same time and effort I gave yours.
1. Conservatives are supposed to be fiscally responsible yet when your crowd inherited a trillion-dollar surplus from Bill Clinton, Bush/Cheney and a Republican Congress turned it into a $3-trillion-dollar deficit.
{Bob, wasn’t it a 6 year conservative congress that put through the restraints that produced the surplus that Clinton “signed” into place? I believe there was an attack that threw the economy and all governmental services into a tailspin as well. One thing you and I will probably agree upon is that the infrastructure of our security agencies was unnecessarily increased when a simple unification of file types would have sufficed. I agree that we on the right haven’t done the oversight we should have but hey, where are your congress’ approval ratings right now? Hmmmm?}
2. Conservatives strongly support the war in Iraq but won’t help pay for it. Never has our country been at war without asking and getting our citizens to help bear the financial burden…until this war. Conservatives don’t want to give up Bush’s tax cuts for the top 5% of wage earners to help pay for this war. Why?
{Bob, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we have the greatest influx of funds from taxes occurring on Bush’s watch? A reduced taxation will always produce a more vibrant economy; except, when the naysayers on the left AND right in congress with the drive-by media, wrongfully fear mongers its way to the kitchen table of government subsidy recipients and causes uproar of rumor and despair. Further, my wife and I are professionals who may at sometime earn a significant amount of money; Bob, how are we to reconcile the 15% per year we give to the missions, charities, and private services that benefit this and other countries around the world with the reduced monies available to raise my 4 adopted kids, one of whom is special needs? You’re very good at stating the left leaning talking points, but are you going to provide for the long term care of my son after I’m gone? WAKE UP, you and the rest on the left don’t know me and others like me That I am friends with who need what we earn to support our favorite causes, since congress won’t represent us in them.}
3. The American people got tired of being lectured on “family values” by conservative clergy and Republican members of Congress, e.g. Larry Craig, who didn’t practice what they preached.
{Bob, there are snakes and hypocrites in every form of government and church, synagogue, mosque, and temple (including scientific). I agree, let’s get rid of the term family values and use the term Biblical or Judeo-Christian-Islamic values. Even if using just the New Testament for the Christians, we still have the admonition of the word that Jesus came not to replace the law but to fulfill it. So one day, when the Christian faith as corrupted by false theories of the old testament not applying to the present, there will be a judging in Heaven of those political policies that are responsible for the deaths of every aborted baby, and every euthanized elder. In regards to the death penalty and gun rights, God is the person who puts governments in place for his plan, if you believe the bible, and then research that. Look at the fact that in the early church, members were told if you don’t have a sword, go, sell what you have, and purchase one. This is protection in times as appropriate.}
4. Or maybe the voters got tired of Republicans controlling the US House of Representatives for 12 years during which they handed out more wasteful pork projects than all the pork handed out by Democrats in the 42 years preceding the GOP takeover.
{Bob, remember what I said about oversight, and remember at one point we could have had line item vetoes, dang; but, I agree with you in basis.}
5. Or maybe voters got angry when they learned the Vice President of the United States manipulated intelligence and misled the American people on why war with Iraq was in our national security interests.
{Did he, or did all the people receiving the info? Or, neither, what if it is as it appeared when nukes weren’t found that they were moved or that Saddam was leaking false information to hold off an attack, which is exactly what a friend of mine from Iraq said before he went home to rebuild. He was grateful to see his family after 30 years in the US in exile.}
6. Or maybe the public didn’t like George Bush vetoing legislation to provide health insurance for millions of kids.
{Maybe health insurance is only necessary when trying to buy votes and when other attachments are not insurance related. The left is so fixed on health care; this is the one country people want to come to, because in America, a person cannot be turned away if in need. What we need is a system where each person gets their card and is allowed a maximum of two unrestricted visits a year (read: “emergency” runny nose and other such drivel) then the card can only be used for a level two visit from then on for up to 4 visits for children, two times for adults and after that, they pay on their own. Then maybe you will find that the truth is it isn’t 47 million uninsured but that represents the number in any given year who are uninsured at least one day in that calendar year. In reality it is less than 1/10 of that amount if you include those that end up using the Medicare or Medicaid system in that year, and who get a job and pay their own way therein. And you also include those of us who at various times in our lives are able to self insure.}
7. Or maybe the public got embarrassed by Republicans in the Bush Administration who refused, in the face of overwhelming evidence, to accept the reality of global warming, aka “The Flat Earth Society”.
{Bob, Bob, Bob, I am a child of the 60’s and 70’s, I can still remember in 1973 going to three a days in Los Angeles County when we had 90 degrees at 7:30 in the morning and 110 degrees for several days each summer. I remember the hysteria about “global Cooling”. Bob, why don’t you and several of the maniacs about DC including McCain, sit down with the scientists that are rebutting global warming and compare their data against the histrionics of the DISASTERISTS (my term). Why doesn’t the PC crowd cut down old growth trees (30% oxygen producing efficiencies) and plant Bamboo, and other grasses instead (70% oxygen producing efficiencies instead and in a plant born mineral strata that fixes the carbon when the plant decays.) The new growth hardwoods will produce more wood later and the bamboo will produce a renewable wood and food source. Mr. Beckel, you need to educate yourself and quit listening to one set of leftist demagogues and their provisional “experts. You are much smarter that this.}
And by the way my prayer group keeps you in its prayers because like others we believe God wants you to “know the truth” so you can be set free.
Yours in Jesus,

Bill Reis

 
Comment by KT

Bob:

I am independent, but conservative.

I have to agree with most of your points. I am dissappointed by what the Republicans have done with their own brand.

Nonetheless, I am not in favor of bigger government. Unfortunately, government at all levels seems incompetent when it comes to solving problems we face today, much less helping us avoid problems that will clearly hit us in the future.

I do not necessarily think that conservatism means “Republican”.

I will vote either Democratic or Republican, depending on who tackles the “out of control” issues including but not limited to: Living within our means (i.e. balanced budgets, Entitlement spending, reducing government employment), reducing tax rates (at all levels), promoting economic growth via capitalism, enforcing our immigration laws (or change them for the better), having the silent majority’s rights extinquished in favor of rights for every cause that is outside the norm, protecting us from harm and limiting world-wide extremism, and last but not least: establishing and promoting self-sufficiancy for everything that our nation requires to thrive: energy, food, water, creativity, work ethic, unbiased media, etc.

I seriously doubt that any presidential candidate, from a Congress that has 18% approval rating, can come close to meeting these expectations. Cetainly, not the two candidates from which we must choose.

 
Comment by Ed

Bob, I don’t think anybody can make a decent prediction who will take the “crown” this fall.
However, it is not going to matter much. Both parties will shed a ton of money (something we simply don’t have) to “change” politics/policy, and as the Dems disagreed for the last 8 years in Congress, so will we see the opposite if we have a Democratic President. In other words, not much will happen as the leaders will come up with half ass solutions that everyone can agree to for the sake of showing that “something” is being done. So who is going to make policy for us? Unfortunately it will be the Middle East, Russia and China who will put us in a position where we have to do something. I do not proclaim to be intelligent or smart, but from where I sit I see a lot of things happening that will cause all our domestic issues to be put on the back burner. Like you said, it is not so much the President but their advisers who lead our nation. Unfortunately we spend more time evaluating who the President will be, then when we do voting for our Congressmen. Many don’t know much about them and keep voting for the same person until they die of old age.

 
Comment by Bradley

Hi Bob

Im so happy to be able to write something in response; What do I agree with? that you have the right to your opinions and you can be an American while disagreeing with my opinions. There seems to be something youve picked up from Ann Coulter on how to say things that really have… bite?

Although Ann used to be more fact-based than recent times, I wish you Bob would do the fact checking and then be opinionated on things you can prove in this dimension; Anyone can put together sentences that outrage, but unless truthful? only have amusement value.

1. you seem to confuse conservative with Republican. Republicans like me are loyal to the GOP but todays Conservative is a selfish arrogant individual loyal to nothing. Folks who were born yesterday dont know Clinton inherited propserity from Reagans vision; Clinton squandered the wealth sending the economy plummeting down just as GW Bush took office. To imply Bush caused the economic downturn is a Hollywood fantasy, its not real.

2. Taxes? tax breaks for the super rich? This is classical communist manifesto economics and you know it. The poor and those who are not doing well tend to be uninformed, so promising them free cash for a vote is the democrats’ modus opperendi and always has been.

3.
4. Pork? the GOP tried to work together with the other side to pass their bills? and as a show of thanks? the left says how dare the GOP pass our pork filled spending bills?

5. now VP Cheney lied about pre war intelligence? again, this works on those people born yesterday who dont know what really took place. VP Cheney is one of the greatest Americans, one of the best leaders in Americas history. For this? the left hates him. How dare he defend the USA! thats what you say, right? Cheney was unfair to terrorists and to Saddams regime!

6. Another communist/socialist manifesto item: socialized health insurance. we need federal govt control of every unit, I mean, every persons life. So Bob are you suggesting the former USSR was right, only they didnt go far enough? And to generate outrage and dishonestly seek support the left has the audacity to say: “its for the children! think about the children!” Democrats dont want the issue solved, they use it for its shock value. When it comes to the real life problem of the serious need for health insurance? the left says: “we will appoint a committee to look into it” then they can do nothing except blame the Republicans.

7. global warming? science is about facts but the left? is about propaganda and shock value. The best one can do is about where John McCain is on this issue. The left wants to use the issue to install socialism in America, you agree with that, right Bob?

 
Comment by Denise

Bob,

I happened upon this inadvertently - What you say is true and the responses from people like “Joe” prove it… But, really, you are writing for Fox, and so you are wasting your words if you expect reasonable responses.

 
Comment by A Asher

The last paragraph in BP’s response says it all!!

 
Comment by Roger

Some of your points are true, some are not, and some are points of view. You are correct in saying the conservative agenda has been hijacked by bad leadership. There is no excuse for tax cuts in a time of war. It is my hope that President McCain will do better.

 
Comment by Breanna

Ohhh Booby… You are entitled to your own opinion, doesn’t mean we can’t still think you’re an idiot for standing for it. I stand for one thing, and one thing only. God. Try it out! It’s a good CONSERVATIVE non-hatred thing. Love, love.

 
Comment by Ed Wood

I can agree with you on the fiscal thing. But I expected that.

Typically Liberals are Tax and Spend and Republicans are Spend and Cut taxes. this has gone on forever.

The main thing I hold against GWB is the whole imigration debacle. But then again if the liberals had complete control would give all illegal aliens full citizenship.

I was for the war and am still for the war. I think we should have done it the first time around. I give GWB credit for taking the difficult path. He could have pushed a big red button and turned Afghanastan into a liquid sea of Glass then asked if anyone else wants some.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/al_qaedas_plan_b_117936.htm?page=3

Read this and you may understand why this war on all fronts must continue.

Since the Liberals in congress have opposed any attempt to produce oil locally we all suffer.

I hope all you liberals love 20 dollars a gallon if you get your way that’s what it will be.

I am saddened to see the fall of western civilization before my eyes it was fun while it lasted.

It don’t have to end we could grow a collective backbone and do everything to cut our dependence on foriegn oil; Drill here and Seek out alternatives.

The liberals are betting on pipe dreams for energy security If we elect them we deserve what we get.

 
Comment by Bob

Bob I agree, the Republicans are really pitiful. Until you compare them to the Democrats! Don’t like being called a Commie? Then quit acting like one.

 
Comment by JM

Bob….since you feel the Democrats will get this country back on track….can you please tell me why when Clinton was in for 8 years…you apparently feel he was wonderful!!!! he didnt give all those children health care???? or do you kinda remember Hillarys debacle w/health care… Or why he let the military get in such disaray!!!! Perhaps it was the extra curricular activity going on under the desk in the white house….my my….morality….what ever happened to that…so dont try to shove Craig in our face….just look under your own dirty sheets! And one more thing to remember…under President Bush we have had no attacks in this country since 911….How soon we forget!

 
Comment by Tom

Bob - I take offense at being referred to as a member of the “Flat Earth Society” just because I don’t buy into the myths of Gore. For every scientist who states a case for human-created global warming, you can easily find one or even 2 who can refute it point by point. Why are you so angry Bob? Feeling guilty about riding around in your over-sized SUV, blasting your AC, and going home to your 10,000 Sq. Ft. home?? Please don’t lecture us, you have no grounds to.

 
Comment by Tel

Reality of Global Warming Mr Beckel? You mean like the assertion that Arcitic Sea Ice wouldn’t come back…but has? It’s a theory (and one losing favour) Mr Beckel, don’t sell it for any more than it is…you sound like Obama when you do.

Mr Beckel…stick to looking surly and angry when the mess in Florida and Michigan that the Democrats created for themselves is mentioned (and then you expect a country to trust a party that elevates dolts like Howard Dean and can’t resolve an issue that the Republicans had resolved months earlier?). Or when Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko and Bill Ayers and Michelle Obama’s bleak assessments of the U.S. are presented to you, but don’t throw theory (rapidly becoming hypothesis)around like it’s concrete fact. You look silly.

 
Comment by Bill

In the eighth grade we learn the scientific method. Form a hypothesis and test it. The hypothesis is, “Increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide cause global warming.” From 1945-1975 atmospheric carbon dioxide increased and global temperatures decreased. An eighth grader would know that requires rejection or change of the original hypothesis. Thus your “overwhelming evidence” may support something but it is not carbon dioxide causing global warming.

I think your other suppositions are probably based on just as flimsy evidence. “Trillion-dollar surplus”?

 
Comment by Don

LOL. What a load - if you and the left would cease with the lies, spin, theft of money from taxpayers to fund special interest groups, negative attack adds from your PACs etc. and actually took time to debate versus jumping about spewing hate for the right - perhaps we’d cut you a break.

But in this case - you and your ilk are the problem in this country. You lie and distort and attempt to pin all blame for all things onto the right, then chortle at the perceived “abandonment” of conservative principals. Thats just a lot of horse dung.

Unfortunately many in the GOP have let the right down - by acting like big gov liberals rather than the conservatives we wanted to elect. Thats where the bitterness of the right comes in - contempt for our own proving we actually have a soul and do care what people do (versus you leftists who say anything to get power then do whatever you please without consequence).

Newsflash Bob - Gas is over triple what it was THE DAY THE DEMS TOOK CONGRESS. I can play your game too - GAS PRICES ARE 100% THE FAULT OF THE DEMS IN CONGRESS. Sounds kind of stupid don’t it? Then why do your side say everything is Bush’ fault etc? You guys can’t have it both ways Bob.

The fact is - leftists are arrogant dolts who believe the have a mandate to turn the US into a banana republic over ill-guided feelings of guilt while concurrently letting China, Mexico, etc. pollute the earth like there is no tomorrow. Double standard Bob.

You guys are a parody - sorry if that offends your sensitivities.

 
Comment by Lawhoub

Bob,
As someone who is a “conservative” I agree with many of your points concerning the Republican party. They no longer seem to hold the same ideals that i do as a “conservative” and they continue to alienate themselves from the American public. The problem, however, is that the democrats are not any better. I have listened to what the democrats have said, and I have watched how little they have actually done. We are stuck in a position where it doesn’t matter which “party” is in control, because at the end of the day, neither party is willing to stick to its roots, and both parties give in too easily to the demands of the “middle” because they are more concerned with winning elections than they are with making tough changes.
I also find it amazing that we make such a huge deal out of the POTUS approval ratings, but has anyone bothered to look and see how low Congress’ approval ratings are?!?! We don’t trust Congress, we don’t trust the POTUS, its a sorry state for American politics. We are in a situation full of apathy, where the American people identify themselves by some stupid party label, and not by taking the time to actually consider what they believe. Its time that the American people take back the government that is supposed to be “of the people, for the people, and by the people.” Unfortunately, I’m afraid that we are too far gone to make changes…

 
Comment by John

Bob,
Even thouh I am a conservative, I agree with you completely. However, you’re still a commie.

 
Comment by Ken

Your right Bob…no liberal ever made disparaging remarks about George Bush….are you serious..the left spews so much hate it’s pathetic. I agree with your philosophy on “disagreement” but please don’t say liberals are innocent by standers!!!

 
Comment by Joe Nava

Ah, poor baby, so the right doesn’t love you because of your outer space ideas. So conservatives can’t accept that cow flatulence is causing global warming and you think that’s bad, you need to get over it. And the last time I looked the democrats controlled congress and the purse strings. You mentioned Craig as an an example of Republicanism but what about the shinning example the Democarts give us in Clinton. Badness is not a party thing, badness is individualistic. Oh, by the way, some of my best friends are librals.

 
Comment by Laura

I am so exhausted. The hate that flies between both parties is staggering. Why can’t anyone see that extremism(liberalism or conservitism) does nothing but tear the country apart! If we meet in the middle as a country more can get done! And I don’t think Obama is the answer…

 
Comment by Allison Gayle

Bob,

Most people, including me, work for a living. We have jobs that produce things that get bought and sold. We have jobs that create value. We watch people like you, on television, for entertainment and sometimes, for information and analysis… actually, it is mostly for entertainment because I figure I can do my own analysis of political events.

When you respond to viewer criticism, like you have, it means that you are taking yourself too seriously, or you are worried that there are not enough people taking you seriously enough. You’ve been around a long time Bob. You’ve had a good run. Unfortunately, your opinions are old and stale, and, unlike Barack Obama, you’re not doing a good job of putting a fresh face on your traditional liberal values. Maybe it’s time to take a break, lose some weight, get happy with life, and come back with a fresh new perspective. Then, perhaps, you’ll become “entertaining” again.

Sincerely,
Allison Gayle

 
Comment by CWN

Mr. Beckle,
I can’t speak for anyone but myself…it is certainly ineffective when people use emotion to get their points across…my experience is that has been the left’s most effective tool in duping the American pulic. That aside, neither candidate appeals to me…the leaders of the house and senate really do nauseate me, and the representatives as a whole are being over rated in their low polling statistics.
I would truly like to see changes in the political system…top to bottom…unfortunately this year won’t be it no matter who wins. So while, as a conservative, I may be dumb…I’m not stupid…I’ll be holding my nose and voting McCain.

Blessings to you and yours this 4th of July

 
Comment by Glenn Barbour

I think your comments are worthy of your position as a democratic Strategist. I myself would have said much the same and I would like to offer apology for statements made against you or towards you. These sort of remarks should be thought not published. I actually believe most of these remarks were by non republicans but I hesitate saying who they were from since I do not know. Some people are idiots and open the front of their faces due to having no brains.

 
Comment by Brian from Texas

Yes Bob.
Conservatives ARE very angry right now. I grew up an angry conservative myself, now I’m a liberal.
The conservatives seem to foam at the mouth everytime someone mentions of Sen. Barack Obama!
Barack Obama! Barack Obama! Barack Obama! Barack Obama! Barack Obama!

In regards to taxes, no joke! Where is the responsibility? Many are voting for their pocket books, and against their country. Ok conservatives, when would be a good time for this country to increase taxes? Never? Oh, you would like taxes to go lower! What a grand idea, that’ll save us money!
At least when Democrats increase spending, they realize the need to increase revenues.
“Supply-side economics” is bull and will eventually ruin this country.

 
Comment by Lorie M.

“Conservatives are supposed to be fiscally responsible yet when your crowd inherited a trillion-dollar surplus from Bill Clinton, Bush/Cheney and a Republican Congress turned it into a $3-trillion-dollar deficit”

Can we talk facts, please. The deficit came because of 9/11. That day caused the stock market to tumble to almost crash. People were laid off, 401k diminished in value, etc., etc.

What happened is simple Economics 101: When the economy falters, the federal government spends and overspends to generate jobs and work opportunities for businesses to keep the economy going. It’s an economic tradition started by FDR in the Depression Era. The economy was busted and the government spent into deficit to get things going.

Don’t let liberal opponents scare you with this lie. They know it’s true but say it because they like the way it sounds. 9/11 put a HUGE dent in our economy.

THAT’S WHAT OPEC IS TRYING TO DO NOW WITH OIL!!!! They’re doing it to manipulate our elections. Because we’ve shown so little backbone over Iraq, they calculated that high oil prices would send us over the edge and have us running to elect someone with less resolve than Bush.

Muslims in the Middle East want to crush us and confuse us- divide and conquer. We Americans need to stick together and find creative solutions to the problems of our economy.

We need to develop alternative energy as fast as we can without diminishing the value of gas-powered vehicles too quickly. The negative equity loans would hurt the economy.

We need to DRILL! In case we forget, most of our PLASTICS are petroleum products. Even if we move away from petroleum for fuel, we still need it for important plastic products, especially medical equipment that saves lives. We drill in ANWR and off-shore to ensure we have enough for fuel and plastic products.

Let’s slowly but strategically build nuclear plants. We need energy for all our electronic widgets and maybe for electronic cars. I strongly suggest we begin curbing our hunger for gadgetry. Most of the time, they’re unnecessary. Think of the money saved on not buying every new thing that hits the market. We could the power for more important things.

Mr. Beckel, you side will not win because of one important fact. Yours is the party of “No, you can’t.” You can’t drill. You shouldn’t drive to work. You shouldn’t think like that. You can’t say that. You shouldn’t buy that. You shouldn’t wear that. You shouldn’t eat that.

Your party is like a nagging mother, always correcting and telling you what to do. Until your party comes of with solutions AND the plan to get it done, you have nothing to offer.

I don’t hate your side. I just your side stopping more things than they start. Get’er done or get lost!!!!

 
Comment by Charles

It’s not going to be a liberal agenda that wins. Liberalism has been continually rejected by the majority of Americans. To win the Presidency liberals have found they must move to the right or not stand a chance of winning. They know that and that is exactly what Obama is doing now.

 
Comment by Randy_NC

There is a big difference in a conservative and a Repuplican….right now I don’t see a dimes worth of difference btween a demo and a repub…yeah…I try to listen to you on Fox, but I usually change the channel…you need to stay on CNN or MSNBC or just stay at home….you are the architect of the super delegate debachal(sp)….you make my brain hurt…

 
Comment by Dianne Johnson

I am a registered Democrat. I am not a Bush lover, nor a true conservative. What I am is a Democrat hater. I voted for Al Gore. That was the last time I voted for a Democrat. I became so disgusted by that Hollywood crowd in the years after that first fateful election and not one Democrat said ‘boo’. How could they, since they were screeching louder than the so-called stars. I have never before heard such BS. I thought I was a Liberal. My ex-husband called laughingly called me a bleeding-heart Liberal for years. Well, I guess I’m not after all. I didn’t leave the party. The party left me. I have no desire to be a part of what’s been going on. I will not vote for a Democrat ever again. Can I stick to that? Oh, yeah! NBC left my life after that William Arkin debacle. I have not watched one minute of any show on any NBC station in 16 months. So, yeah, I think I can stick to not voting for any Democrat!
Dianne Johnson
Milledgeville, GA

 
Comment by Cmmntr

Obviously if anyone else actually takes the time to read the comments posted so far they will see that they prove your point. Unfortunately Obama was 100% correct about people being angry and clinging to religion and guns.

 
Comment by Bill Kallsten

I am a conservative and a lot you say is true in this article. The fact is the repulican party has forgotten its consrvative principles. They need to be corrected but I don’t believe “over correction” is the answer either.

As far as global warming is concerned, that has been happening since the last ice age ended, no matter what party was in control.

Keep your opinions coming, if only one side of the argument is presented there will never be any rational decisions made.

Respectivley,

Bill Kallsten

 
Comment by Gary

Bob Beckel, you have been a joke for years and you just get funnier with age. It never changes with you liberals, always more of the same.

 
Comment by Don in California

Dear Bob,
I must agree with many of your points. However, this is one citizen that does not believe that the government owes the people health care. I am proud that the national health care plan did not pass, that is a personal responsibility.

I am now a Republcian, but when the democratic party put bill clinton up for President, I quickly changed parties. I will not go into the reasons except to say I beleve he is the same as jane fonda and should have been charged with treason.

I earn less than $50,000 per year and fully support the tax cuts. Everyone should pay the same percentage no matter how much they earn. Why punish success with more taxes??

And yes we do need real leadership in government, but not the ones running now. We also need new people in Congress. 13% approval rating?? Give me a break.

God Bless America

 
Comment by Mark

A typical liberal always confuses a conservatives and Republicans. Republicans messed up the advantage a conservative agenda earned them. The conservative agenda will make its way back to the top, even if we have to cut the republicans loose.

 
Comment by R. Hamric

It is rather amusing to see a spokesman from the Left get outraged by the “hate” from the Right. Just where does one suppose they learned such visceral retort. For the last 7+ years Americans far and wide have been bombarded with Bush Derangement Syndrome from the Left. The Left and their MSM partners have been completely disrespecting our military all the while proclaiming their own patriotism. The Right has been going to school on the mannerisms of the Left and are fully prepaired to respond “in kind” to the vitriol that has been gushing from the Left for so long. Even if Mr. Obama was the “Messiah” Mr. Beckel and so many on the Left proclaim, it is still not going to prevent his “crucifixion” by those who find his Marxist/Socilist policies totally unacceptable.

The left cannot with a straight face accuse the Republican leadership of being at the root of the polarized divisiveness that exists in this country since that leadership morphed into typical Liberals right before our very eyes. No, the Left can take full credit for the conflict that is coming. They set the ground rules and now they will reap the consequences. In your heart of hearts Mr. Lefty, you know you hate America regardless of your proclamations to the contrary. I know patriots Mr. Beckel and you are not fit to tie their shoes.

 
Comment by Sean O'Gallagher

ohhh beckel … i almost forgot, since we were talking about arrogance, when youre on tv you come across way arrogant, and i hate to say it, but even more arrogant than bo. imagine that.

one other thought, all of your “dont you republicans wish you had better leaders” comments, the dems could surely weed out a few of your own… start with pelosi reed finestien, and boxer if you dont mind.
and find some one better than bo to suport for president.

 
Comment by Jeff Fairchild

Mr. Beckel,

There is plenty of blame to go around. However, I think when history looks back at our time, a lot of President Bush’s policies will be vindicated.

You have every right to disagree but please use arguements that have been proven instead of promoting leftist propaganda. President Bush and the GOP are not the devil nor are the Dems. They are people with different ways of looking at our world and hopefully the voters will help whoever the party is that is in control to hear what we want to see happen in this great country of ours.

God Bless!

 
Comment by Will Eckrich

Hey Bob,

Love watching you on Fox. You’re a great American.

I just want to disagree with you on two things. First, the Bush Administration and a lot of Republicans in Congress are *NOT* Conservatives. I trust you will value your integrity and ensure you do not label them as such. This is also the main reason the Democrats may score large wins this election year - Conservatives do not feel they have a Conservative candidate to vote for (this is by no means an attack on Sen McCain - a man I truly respect and admire for his many years of service to our Country). Second, the surplus President Clinton had was primarily due to the Republican Congress at that time. Yes, we are now in deficit spending but I believe a good part of it is due to the war. Should we look at cutting other programs to finance our part of this current World War? I think so.

One last note: historically, whether it was a Democrat president (Kennedy) or a Republican president (Reagan), whenever tax rates are lowered, the amount of tax revenues coming in to the Country’s coffers has risen. So those tax cuts (which did not just go to the top 5% by the way) are a good thing - not a bad thing. It’s Congress (Democrats *AND* Republicans) that are to blame for spending more than is taken in.

Keep up the fight and stay respectful and I’ll be a fan even from the ‘other side’.

Will Eckrich

 
Comment by Terry

Bob, I like you. I even voted for your old boss. As a former Democrat and now conservative most of your points are right on. The Republican leadership or lack of it is the reason for the dissatisfaction with Republicans and the Democrat gains. However the problem for liberals is a complete sweep will be the worse thing for you. After four years of complete control and implementation of tax increases, spending, no drilling, etc the American public won’t elect another Democrat majority for many years. When someone is successful they are considered rich by the Democrats and must be punished. Most of us aren’t rich. We are just playing by the rules, covering our own costs of our family, and trying to save for retirement. Although I had always agreed the war was a mistake, now losing would be worse which is what Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, with a Democrat President, would have given us. Be careful what you liberals wish for, you may just get it. Unfortunately so will the rest of us.

 
Comment by Mic

Wasn’t Beckel in charge of Walter Mondale’s presdiential campaign, in which Mondale wone only one state? (and the DC)

I guess FOX is the only place he could find employment.

 
Comment by Peggy Rogers

Mr. Beckel,

The Republicans and Democrats (all politicians) are responsible for the state of the country. Everyone of them will say whatever it takes to get a vote or to line their pockets. Have a nice day.

 
Comment by Rick

Ok so let’s look at this:
1. Conservatives are supposed to be fiscally responsible yet when your crowd inherited a trillion-dollar surplus from Bill Clinton, Bush/Cheney and a Republican Congress turned it into a $3-trillion-dollar deficit.
Hmmm, outright LIE!
2. Conservatives strongly support the war in Iraq but won’t help pay for it. Never has our country been at war without asking and getting our citizens to help bear the financial burden…until this war. Conservatives don’t want to give up Bush’s tax cuts for the top 5% of wage earners to help pay for this war. Why?
Why don’t the left wing liberals running Congress CUT SPENDING? Image that, not bribing the libs special interest groups for votes.
3. The American people got tired of being lectured on “family values” by conservative clergy and Republican members of Congress, e.g. Larry Craig, who didn’t practice what they preached.
Oh and Barney Frank and Kennedy are prime examples of what?
4. Or maybe the voters got tired of Republicans controlling the US House of Representatives for 12 years during which they handed out more wasteful pork projects than all the pork handed out by Democrats in the 42 years preceding the GOP takeover.
LIE!
5. Or maybe voters got angry when they learned the Vice President of the United States manipulated intelligence and misled the American people on why war with Iraq was in our national security interests.
I thought the CIA did intell? And your former corrupt Pres Klinton lied about the same thing then.
6. Or maybe the public didn’t like George Bush vetoing legislation to provide health insurance for millions of kids.
Good for him, this whole bill was nothing but a LIE anyways, there are already programs out there for this, but you liberals want to give more away to your special interest groups to buy votes.
7. Or maybe the public got embarrassed by Republicans in the Bush Administration who refused, in the face of overwhelming evidence, to accept the reality of global warming, aka “The Flat Earth Society”.
And you tree hugging Al Gore liars can’t accept the face that there is overwhelming evidence that disputs all you liars say.
You should pull your head out of your A#@, you are so blinded by the fact that Americans don’t want a Gov’t to do everything for us and we don’t support your liberal ways.

 
Comment by Obama-Nation

So you are suggesting that we move from being a conservative nation

And become an Obama-Nation?

 
Comment by Mr. Grimm

I agree with what you are getting at. People are just so much more rude when they are safe behind their computer monitors. I’ve seen it from all sides too. People act like little babies when they think they are safe from repurcussions for their actions. But it just degrades that oposite viewpoint in the mind of the person being attacked. then they will go off and spread that hatred around to their friends and it will just keep getting worse. Time to grow up and show some respect for others! I may not agree with your views but hey, I dont have too. But I’m not going to smash mine into your face either.

 
Comment by Ken

Right on Bob! The Republicans always howl that there is a bias in the media against them, yet turn a blind eye when their own media surrogates distort what is said by Democrats. The latest proof is their distortion of what Wesley Clark said. Clark never denigrated McCain’s service, just pointed out that his war experience in and of itself was not executive training for the top office in the country.

 
Comment by Mary Oliver

I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the past. I always reject someone who is too conservative or too liberal. Obama is too far to the right for me. I do not consider McCain to be conservative, I find him to be close to the middle which works for me.

 
Comment by Jason

I’ll start off with “I’m a conservative”. But I will concede your first five points. Point taken. But on six and seven I have some questions or arguments.

6. I was (at least in my head) up to speed with the decision to veto the healthcare deal. One of the reasons (again, it was my understanding) it was vetoed was that it was far too broad to be realistic. I make a decent wage, far more than some of my friends (I’m still not “wealthy), but I think covering a kid whose parents make $75k a year is a bit absurd. Let’s cover the kids in poverty, but let the well-off cover their own children. I don’t want to pay for someone’s kid when that kid’s parents make more than I do.

7. I am an engineer by trade and have an issue with Global Warming. The problem I have with global warming is the lack of reliable evidence. You show me one “reliable” scientist raving about the effects of global warming, and I’ll show you one “reliable” scientist who claims beyond a shadow of a doubt it isn’t really happening. I am a fan of science, not politics, and I have yet to see reliable definitive proof of global warming.

I was not one of the people that posted on your last entry and although I do disagree with some of your comments, I respect and encourage entries like these help to bring current issues to the forefront.

 
Comment by Shawn

Wow! I have no clue how you ever made it into the public arena. I will definitely be sending a letter to Fox News regarding your pathetic contributions. I use contribution very loosely. You are a liberal strategist. Not a journalist. By the way, your writing reflects this grandly. You act like your so called reasons for leaving the GOP are new. Did you take them directly from the DNC playbook? Or are they paying you to disperse this propanganda? Karl Rove may be a partisan strategist as well. At least he is original. However, you and your failed liberal ideals are not.

 
Comment by RJ

Hey Bob, want a little cheese with that whine?

I would bring one point about deficits. Most social program which are what is really bankrupting this country are decended from the “great society” aka communism in America. If you are going to go into history, you better go back to the root cause, and who caused it - Democrats.

 
Comment by Ruth

Bob
I strongly disagree with and condemn the use of the phrases “idiot”, “commie” and “screw you” that punctuated the responses to your last article. As a conservative I am embarrassed by them. I do, however take exception to your use of the word “hating” to describe how you and your side are viewed by conservatives, as if we are the only people who suffer from this personality flaw. Your political party has also demonstrated an extreme hatred of the Bush Administration and all those associated with it. Indeed, your own words condemn you personally, Bob. ” Bush’s narcissism and self centered personality flaws is borderline psychotic” and the use of the term “Flat Earth Society” just proves that you are hoist on your own petard. The anger and hatred are palpable in your columns and the “na na na na na” tone in this column does not put you in a favorable light. When we as conservatives and liberals discover that we need each other (and indeed, as you say, like each other) and are benefited by the contrasting viewpoints we will begin to make this country what it should be. Until such time that we can sit across the aisle and understand the good points of each others’ arguments we will never be truly great. So, may I ask on this most patriotic of holidays, that both conservatives and liberals stop the hate and work together to remake the United States of America the beacon of hope and freedom that we were in past years. And to you Bob, Happy 4th of July and God Bless you and all those you love.

 
Comment by Greg in Dallas

Bob, conservatives are angry with your posts because the truth hurts. They prefer to blaim other people f