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		<title>By: The Making of a Fuehrer - MyCoupons.com Shopping Boards</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do have a label applied to them in Scripture. They are called a &#8220;false prophet.&#8221;  Barack Obama Is Not a Christian « FOX Forum « FOXNews.com   __________________ Never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do have a label applied to them in Scripture. They are called a &#8220;false prophet.&#8221;  Barack Obama Is Not a Christian « FOX Forum « FOXNews.com   __________________ Never grow a wishbone, daughter, where your backbone ought to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: F3 Coalition - [Faith. Family. Freedom.] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let Father-Challenged Obamaâ€™s Own Words Defeat Him</title>
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		<dc:creator>F3 Coalition - [Faith. Family. Freedom.] &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let Father-Challenged Obamaâ€™s Own Words Defeat Him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even there, he has a contrary view. â€śIâ€™m rooted in the Christian tradition,â€ť said Obama, who has declared himself a Christian. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: race42008.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Let father-challenged Obama&#8217;s own words defeat him</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even there, he has a contrary view. â€śIâ€™m rooted in the Christian tradition,â€ť said Obama, who has declared himself a Christian. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: race42008.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bitter white bigots coming for the children again, John Lewis?</title>
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		<dc:creator>race42008.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bitter white bigots coming for the children again, John Lewis?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it all Barack Obama Is Not a Christian Too bad these Christians thought it OK to tear the nation apart on the lie that Gore really won in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Be Respectful &#8212; Part II &#171; GingerSnaps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Be Respectful &#8212; Part II &#171; GingerSnaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Admit Youâ€™ve Gone Off the Deep End When McCain Himself Calls YouÂ Out.Â  She asked me to read an article by Cal Thomas regarding Barack Obama&#8217;s faith and his Christianity (and the fact that in the 2004 interview [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to Admit Youâ€™ve Gone Off the Deep End When McCain Himself Calls YouÂ Out.Â  She asked me to read an article by Cal Thomas regarding Barack Obama&#8217;s faith and his Christianity (and the fact that in the 2004 interview [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ten Reasons Why I&#8217;m Not Voting for Obama &#171; Don&#8217;t Drink the King&#8217;s Wine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ten Reasons Why I&#8217;m Not Voting for Obama &#171; Don&#8217;t Drink the King&#8217;s Wine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Faith: He says he&#8217;s a Christian when there is so much evidence to the contrary. He doesn&#8217;t believe there is only one way to heaven.  Jesus says [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Obama Will Win - Hint: It&#8217;s Real Wrath of God Type Stuff &#124; The Habitation of Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Obama Will Win - Hint: It&#8217;s Real Wrath of God Type Stuff &#124; The Habitation of Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] yet somehow, you&#8217;re all ok with it.Â  You can relate to a guy who can&#8217;t even get the basic tenets of Christianity right, though I admit, it would have been more palatable to me if you merely agreed with him on some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] yet somehow, you&#8217;re all ok with it.Â  You can relate to a guy who can&#8217;t even get the basic tenets of Christianity right, though I admit, it would have been more palatable to me if you merely agreed with him on some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What does Barack Obama really believe in? &#171; Joshua Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>What does Barack Obama really believe in? &#171; Joshua Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News Contributor. He talks about what Barack Obama believes in. It is an interesting read. Â  http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/ Â  Joshua [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] News Contributor. He talks about what Barack Obama believes in. It is an interesting read. Â  <a href="http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/" rel="nofollow">http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/</a> Â  Joshua [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Steph:
   You just can't accept it because you don't like it... but that doesn't make you any more correct.   You dismiss my evidence with no refutation, no evidence of your own other than childish name-calling.   You have no knowledge of when or where I went to college to get my degrees, nor by whom I was taught.   You make yourself sound silly and uneducated.
   
   Maybe that's why your response sounds so naive ... you tell me that I must have been taught by liberals feeding me their propaganda, then you refer me to history textbooks published before 1900 as if they are somehow more accurate than current ones.   You're just referring me to your version of propaganda.   In case you didn't know it, ALL history books carry with them the biases of their writers... some more than others.   That is why I picked evidence not from a textbook but from one of your "liberal propagandists" : Thomas Jefferson himself.   I submitted quotes from the writer of the Declaration of Independence (&#38; our president) and also from our second president, John Adams, to prove that THESE MEN THEMSELVES said our nation was NOT founded with Christian theology in mind.  This is not my opinion or that of some textbbok writer... it is in their own words !!

   You asked how many founders there were ?   There were many, and many of them wrote in a similar vein.   Don't take my word for it... go read them yourself... again, not in a textbook, but research their original writings.   It takes time and effort, but then you aren't dependent upon anyone else's version of history... you see it through their eyes.

   Take James Madison, the "architect" of our Constitution.   If you've actually read the Constitution (I have, many, many times because I teach what's actually in it, not what someone told me) you will see that the word God is NOT MENTIONED ONCE.   Neither is Jesus.   If these men were so intent on forming a Christian government, it would have been a very simple task to say so; these were some of the most eloquent men in our history, and I'm sure they could have found a way to express that.

   The only mentions of religion in the Constitution are prohibitive: no religious test for office, no govt. establishment of an official religion, and no restriction on religious worship.   PERIOD.   Once again, don't take my word for it, go read the Constitution yourself (it's always good to learn new things).
As Nathan said, your response is really rather pathetic... you have no evidence or grounds to stand on, you're just mad that someone can rebut your position with overwhelming evidential examples, and you respond like a 6-yr-old.   Read some actual history and grow up.   History (&#38; the writing of the men who made it) proves you're still wrong, but at least you won't sound so silly trying to debate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Steph:<br />
   You just can&#8217;t accept it because you don&#8217;t like it&#8230; but that doesn&#8217;t make you any more correct.   You dismiss my evidence with no refutation, no evidence of your own other than childish name-calling.   You have no knowledge of when or where I went to college to get my degrees, nor by whom I was taught.   You make yourself sound silly and uneducated.</p>
<p>   Maybe that&#8217;s why your response sounds so naive &#8230; you tell me that I must have been taught by liberals feeding me their propaganda, then you refer me to history textbooks published before 1900 as if they are somehow more accurate than current ones.   You&#8217;re just referring me to your version of propaganda.   In case you didn&#8217;t know it, ALL history books carry with them the biases of their writers&#8230; some more than others.   That is why I picked evidence not from a textbook but from one of your &#8220;liberal propagandists&#8221; : Thomas Jefferson himself.   I submitted quotes from the writer of the Declaration of Independence (&amp; our president) and also from our second president, John Adams, to prove that THESE MEN THEMSELVES said our nation was NOT founded with Christian theology in mind.  This is not my opinion or that of some textbbok writer&#8230; it is in their own words !!</p>
<p>   You asked how many founders there were ?   There were many, and many of them wrote in a similar vein.   Don&#8217;t take my word for it&#8230; go read them yourself&#8230; again, not in a textbook, but research their original writings.   It takes time and effort, but then you aren&#8217;t dependent upon anyone else&#8217;s version of history&#8230; you see it through their eyes.</p>
<p>   Take James Madison, the &#8220;architect&#8221; of our Constitution.   If you&#8217;ve actually read the Constitution (I have, many, many times because I teach what&#8217;s actually in it, not what someone told me) you will see that the word God is NOT MENTIONED ONCE.   Neither is Jesus.   If these men were so intent on forming a Christian government, it would have been a very simple task to say so; these were some of the most eloquent men in our history, and I&#8217;m sure they could have found a way to express that.</p>
<p>   The only mentions of religion in the Constitution are prohibitive: no religious test for office, no govt. establishment of an official religion, and no restriction on religious worship.   PERIOD.   Once again, don&#8217;t take my word for it, go read the Constitution yourself (it&#8217;s always good to learn new things).<br />
As Nathan said, your response is really rather pathetic&#8230; you have no evidence or grounds to stand on, you&#8217;re just mad that someone can rebut your position with overwhelming evidential examples, and you respond like a 6-yr-old.   Read some actual history and grow up.   History (&amp; the writing of the men who made it) proves you&#8217;re still wrong, but at least you won&#8217;t sound so silly trying to debate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Ruth, really wacky/crazy/insane stuff you are saying there.

To everyone else (especially robert j smith):

I take this to mean that NO ONE will accept my simple challenge that I posted below.  That being to give ONE, and only one, logical reason for believing in God and/or all this crazy Christian junk.  I can only assume that the challenge has not been accepted because deep down inside, you all know there is NO valid/logical reason.  Wake up.  You guys are all nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Ruth, really wacky/crazy/insane stuff you are saying there.</p>
<p>To everyone else (especially robert j smith):</p>
<p>I take this to mean that NO ONE will accept my simple challenge that I posted below.  That being to give ONE, and only one, logical reason for believing in God and/or all this crazy Christian junk.  I can only assume that the challenge has not been accepted because deep down inside, you all know there is NO valid/logical reason.  Wake up.  You guys are all nuts.</p>
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